Your very clever, you built a robot that makes tea. You want to share your brilliant new robot with everyone. Everyone likes tea right? So you make it a nice mobile base and give it some arms and set it off around your town.
At every house it stops and knocks on the door. If someone answers it asks "would you like a cup of tea?"
"No thank you" They say and slam the door.
Three hours later the bot comes back, it's been round all the houses and has started again.
"NO THANK YOU" The person who lives there yells, "I don't drink tea, I'm allergic to it" you didn't think of this possibility. The bot doesn't know how to handle it so it ignore it and carries on.
Three hours later it comes back.
The person is now pissed off and calls the cops. It's operating on a public street they say there is nothing they can do about it.
Three hours later it comes back again.
This time the person follows it. All the way around it's loop. Eventually it stops back at your house to restock on water and tea bags.
They knock on your door. "Will you fucking stop your damp bot it's really annoying"
"Oh, but every one likes tea"
"I don't, I'm allergic to it."
"Huh, really?"
"Yes really, and fuck you for that tone. If it knocks on my door again I'm going to smash it."
"That would be destruction of property, I'll call the cops"
"Look just add my house to a list or something so it leaves me alone."
"It doesn't have the memory for every house in the world , I can give you a sticker to put on your front door, it'll ignore it then"
Next week someone else makes a bot that makes coffee and we start this entire cycle again.
デイヴ
in reply to デイヴ • • •Isaac Ji Kuo
in reply to デイヴ • • •Winchell Chung ⚛🚀
in reply to Isaac Ji Kuo • • •@isaackuo @pluralistic
Leaving email lists and entering Facebook means Goodbye "internet routing around the damage" and Hello "single point of failure"
Or Goodbye "Can't Stop The Signal" and Hello "Ministry Of Truth"
Michkov
in reply to Winchell Chung ⚛🚀 • • •@nyrath @isaackuo @pluralistic
The internet needs rewilding
noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild…
We Need To Rewild The Internet | NOEMA
Maria Farrell (NOEMA)Joshua D. Boyd
in reply to Isaac Ji Kuo • • •Isaac Ji Kuo
in reply to Joshua D. Boyd • • •nojhan, Cassandre de l’analyse systémique
in reply to Isaac Ji Kuo • • •Ertain
in reply to デイヴ • • •John Rohde Jensen
in reply to デイヴ • • •George B
in reply to John Rohde Jensen • • •I think another large part is this is what happens when you change moderation from being for humans (who will do a messy job but tend to at least somewhat take context into account) to machines (which will do a very neat job and moderate exactly what you tell them to whether or not it makes sense)
Ertain
in reply to デイヴ • • •George B
in reply to デイヴ • • •Feyter
in reply to デイヴ • • •Fissile
in reply to デイヴ • • •I feel like something that is rarely discussed here is that the number and kind of people online have changed a lot.
Nowaways it's roughly everyone, back then it was mostly enthusiasts of something.
Forums are great for a community that shares an interest and wants to discuss it.
But many people don't have a hobby that has a community.
Also social media nowadays is a passive medium for consumption, that doesn't work with forums.
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Fissile
in reply to Fissile • • •I wonder if specialised communities will go back to something like forums though.
My impression is that these kinds of info are kept in wikis nowadays. Easier to search but no community.
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デイヴ
in reply to Fissile • • •deraffe
in reply to デイヴ • • •Fairness4All
in reply to デイヴ • • •Tom Bortels
in reply to デイヴ • • •But you can.
Sex. Sex sex sex.
What you do with walled gardens that want to censor - or any forum you find offensive - is go elsewhere. The door swings both ways - if you can't express yourself, you can go elsewhere. You don't have to participate in the censored billionaire-sponsored ad farms.
Back in the late 90's, I ran an ISP. You could put up web pages with anything you wanted. That's never changed. You can get free web hosting today, lots of places.
Don't mistake the meta and google and such for the real world.
SkyBlitz
in reply to Tom Bortels • • •@tbortels sadly "decentralized" is not always a solution, i was banned from multiple server because i said the truth about some project, like @Vivaldi who is an US tech making EU wasing as all their server are in US (Server in EU owned by US big tech is US server).
The issue is also the mentality of half the people of internet that want to delete anything they don't like
Becca
in reply to デイヴ • • •Negahyphen
in reply to デイヴ • • •What do we do to protect advertising revenue? Make up words like “unalived” and make sure not to talk about anything that will set off a flag. People are censoring themselves online proactively to avoid demonetization but now bringing those behaviors into real life.
jor
in reply to デイヴ • • •nick
in reply to デイヴ • • •Neil Moffatt
in reply to デイヴ • • •Andrew Lokenauth
in reply to デイヴ • • •Radio went through the same arc in the 1920s. Wide open at first, then heavily regulated once it got big enough to matter. Every new medium seems to follow this same curve from freedom to control.
@deivudesu
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