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My latest video is now available on Nebula and Patreon.

I don't use Google Maps when cycling in Amsterdam, because some of the routes it gives are absolutely terrible.

But what's more interesting is WHY Google Maps provides such poor cycling directions, because it reveals some really interesting differences between the way cities are designed in the Netherlands vs. America.

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I've been making an effort to transition to OpenStreetMaps - do you find that it's any better for Amsterdam bike route planning? It probably depends a lot on the city, I surmise.
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Important thing to note: OSM doesn't do any route planning itself, it just provides the map data to separate services. So give each a try and find which works best for your needs
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Great as always! Not much of a cyclist but I'm often equally shocked by how awful it is with pedestrian routes, exactly for the same reasons as what's in the video. So often it's "no don't cross the park, take a 3km detour around it" !
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I want to make a shoutout to GeoVelo (geovelo.app/) as an OpenStreetMap based bike router that I find in Boston (and I use it occasionally when I am elsewhere) gives better directions than Google.

And when it gives me something weird, I can usually fix OSM because something is wrong there and next time it gives me better directions

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brouter.m11n.de is pretty good for OSM based bike routing everywhere. Otherwise I do find even OSM's default layer is pretty car-biased. Also you didn't get into how terrible Google map's transit layer is.
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Excellent take, as usual! While this is tangential to the subject of the video, I'd also like to kvetch about the way Google Maps handles surface transit. It only shows bus stops when zoomed in so far as to make it unusable for a route overview. It tends to miss better routes when used for route planning, and it's not great at handling multiple modes or multiple agencies in a trip.
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I moved to Amsterdam a few months ago and I'm really enjoying both trying to recognise places I know in your videos and suddenly seeing places I know from your videos in the city!

I'm still trying to find the best route to work. My current route is already a lot better than google's suggestion.
I checked the Amsterdam infrastructure map and I'm already completely on the plusnet, but olympiaweg and centuurbaan don't really feel like they deserve to be in there :/

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Thanks. The autoluwe route looks interesting. I'll try that tomorrow. With the default settings it only got rid of one of the sections I don't like in exchange for adding another not-great section (still better than google's route though).
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Thanks for the video on important topic!

I rage quit Google Maps last summer when I was visiting Prague. I just wanted to cross the river from my hotel to the city center and couldn't see the green hairline on blue river πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ The bridge just happens to be the oldest and most beautiful bridges in the city, and basically invisible on Maps as it is pedestrianized. What use is a map that cannot be used for navigation? Now I'm a happy #OSM user and occasional contributor.

#osm
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good points. I find apps based on OpenStreetMaps work much better for walking and cycling. Personally, I've been using @CoMaps
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I am watching this video now and I am like "what you are talking about, google maps are great for cycling!"

This is how it routes me for bike (left) and this is how it routes me for cars (right). The route for cycles is brilliant, it used dedicated cycle lane along the train tracks and then leads me through the Central Park... I will cross the first street on the same level 7.2 km into 9.1 km long route...

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