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What hardware does not support Linux?


I never really see hardware lacking Linux support mentioned, which got me caught by surprise when a computer with a Broadcom network card couldn't use the card. What other hardware don't work with Linux?
in reply to ssillyssadass

Many cheap chinese web cameras from non know brands,really problematic to make work printers which older from 2015 for example canon ,Lexmark cause they use proprietary communication protocols and thus drivers for inux or exist in shitty state which would not work on modern system but worked on Ubuntu from 2012 or not driver not exist at all and so on other very specific type of devices
in reply to anon5621

There is the gutenprint project supplying drivers for a lot of older printer models.
in reply to miss_demeanour

I remember the old ADSL modems where effectively winmodems. I had to keep a Windows ME machine as my household router until the point the community had reversed engineered them enough to get them working on Linux.

At least they where usb based rather than some random card. I think the whole driver could work in user space.

in reply to miss_demeanour

I bought an external Hayes 56k modem and suddenly Windows was a memory. Happy days.
in reply to ssillyssadass

in reply to utopiah

This is my plan going forward. Linux wasn't on my radar when I bought my laptop (and my PC but that's a different story about just being scared to try since I use it for work and I'm not convinced Linux has comparable software I need).

I got a wicked sale on a Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Ultra, and of course a few months after I started cutting BIg Tech out of my life (I was an idiot for buying Samsung to begin with but too late now haha). No more Meta, Amazon, or Google accounts or devices for me, and all I have left of Big Tech is Microsoft on my laptop and PC. I tried Mint as my first Linux attempt, and put it on my Samsung laptop. It...didn't play well unfortunately. I've read Bazzite may work better but haven't tried it yet.

Moral of the story, you nailed it. Going forward every bit of tech I buy will be vetted for FOSS support first.

in reply to Jack_Burton

Neat! Two quick things :

I’m not convinced Linux has comparable software I need).


Feel free to ask here. I might not know alternatives but others could, no matter how niche.

Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Ultra [...] didn’t play well unfortunately


Same advice. I don't have one of these but what fails and how? Any specific error message?

in reply to utopiah

As far as my main PC, I'm a freelance voice actor, artist, and musician. My main concern is recording software and to a lesser extent, art software (I've tried Inkscape, but it's a hard transition from photoshop). For recording I really don't like Reaper, and I use Audition (I know, Adobe, haha) and Cubase for music which unfortunately doesn't have a Linux option.

As per the laptop, it had some standard driver issues which were no big deal but apparently Mint doesn't play well with Nvidia graphics cards. The webcam didn't work but that's a semingly standard issue. The biggest thing was Samsung chips and such from what I read really don't play well with Linux, or at least Mint.

in reply to Jack_Burton

in reply to utopiah

Appreciate the advice, I'll look into it more. I didn't even think about an external cam haha. I use the laptop cam daily to video call family, I used to use Google home hubs for that but since I've deleted my Google account and stopped using the hubs I switched to Signal on the laptop. I'll consider an external cam, though it's not ideal. I'll start digging again for options with Samsung chips.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Some useful stuff for some laptops - worth checking if you're buying one for linux:

wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lapto…

wiki.archlinux.org/title/Categ…

Also this - i guess this is the inverse question though:

linux-hardware.org/

in reply to ssillyssadass

Broadcom, as you've discovered. That's the one brand that I've always had trouble with; they go out of their way to be closed source: never publishing specs, never responding to developers. They're horrible to the point where I will not buy any product that uses Broadcom chips. Which used to be a PITA because they were also common.

Fingerprint readers, in general, also widely seem to be poorly supported.

One of my computers has a MediaTek wireless chip where WiFi isn't supported but Bluetooth does.

A lot of people have problems with NVidia cards; I've not had trouble with either AMD or Intel GPUs (although, I think all Intel GPUs are CPU integrated?).

Multifunction printers are still iffy, and even just plain printers can give grief; I've come to believe that this is simply because CUPS is ancient and due for a completely new, modern printing service. It's an awful piece of software to have to work with.

in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍

Brother printers have a good reputation in the linux world. Not sure what the current status is... My printer is over 15 yrs old
in reply to 9488fcea02a9

Almost all printers work now, since they have to support IPP Anywhere to be useable by phones

Linux reshared this.

in reply to Mark

My Canon regularly gives me grief. My Epson Ecotank, OTOH, has been painless.
in reply to 9488fcea02a9

My experience with Brother was also good, until it got tipped during a move and came out simply covered in toner. We don't really need a new printer, but I'd buy another Brother LaserJet in a heartbeat.
in reply to 9488fcea02a9

I bought a new one recently. Apparently they're doing a subscription thing now, so look closely at which model you're buying. But other than that, it works just the same as my old one.
in reply to 9488fcea02a9

I bought a Brother colour laser last year (which on the outside looks identical to the monochrome one I bought 17 years ago that lives with my parents), zero issues, which pretty much has been my experience with printers on linux (also tried a ~5 y/o & 25 y/o HP LaserJet, one being the cheapest thing I've ever used, other being old office equipment, think I tried the Epson ecotank and photo printer my mil has as well)
in reply to 9488fcea02a9

We have a wireless Brother laser MFP from 2-3 years ago that just works. I needed to scan something for the first time a few weeks ago and started to go down to rabbit hole of the official driver package but then I decided to give "scanimage" a try and it just found the scanner.
in reply to statler_waldorf

I'll give that a try. I actually never figured out scanning on linux
in reply to Aatube

Hmm, I run an Arc GPU at work without any issues. Just using plain mesa on NixOS. The Intel devs were quite responsive when we ran into issues as well.
in reply to mat

Arc support was added after release to Linux Kernel 6.2 and it's steadily improved since. Older Linux distros, or "LTS" oriented distros that favour stability may still not have support for them. I know Unraid was very slow to pick up on it and I had to settle for passing the pcie device through to a VM to get it working. Intel is keen to made these viable though, and I love having the AV1 encoder from my A380.
in reply to Flatfire

Ah I see, haven't been on "stable" distros for a long time so I wasn't affected. I've enjoyed the good support and the video stuff is definitely nice. On the AMD side, still no idea how to encode or decode anything on my Framework 16, meanwhile Intel is acing it.
in reply to Aatube

I've run AMD, Intel, and Nvidia on linux and I would say my intel experience was by far the best. I use an a380 in my server for transcoding, and I had an a750 in my desktop but switched to a b580. AMD gets the graphics stuff right, but intel does the graphics and compute right on linux where AMD ROCM is a major pain in the ass. It may not be great if you do tons of gaming, but it works quite well for me.
in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍

I have spent literal hours of my life trying to get the fingerprint reader on a latitude 7400 to work and i just gave up lol. Passwords are underrated anyway.
in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍

Cups is so much better then everything printer related that is available for Windows and it works so good that even Apple was not able or willing to create something on their own and are using it their OS on all devices.
Yes, the web interface is dated but nearly every Desktop comes with a modern integrated interface for printer setup and configuration.
It is ages that I had to use the web interface.
Cups comes with a boatload of printer drivers out of the box. And if not then there are often PPD files on the homepage of the printer manufacturer.

Multifunction printers are a special case and if they are supported or not depends either on how the device is build (are the parts addressable Independently as printer, scanner, modem/Fax) or is it all a integrated mashup that needs special software or drivers from the manufacturer.
In the first case can the printer part often be used with cups and the scanner with sane.
Well in the second case there is not much that Linux developers can do without support and goodwill from the manufacturer.

in reply to 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍

Fingerprint readers, in general, also widely seem to be poorly supported.


Not sure if it technically counts as fingerprint readers but using my YubiKey Bio daily, for login on my desktop and WebAuthN and... 0 problem.

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in reply to ssillyssadass

On the peripheral end, ElGato. You can usually get their stuff to work but they provide little to no support, usually have issues to work out, and you'll always be relying on third party replacements for their software.

I got a stream deck plus with the xlr dock, since even though I quit content creation I like what it provides and have no reason to downgrade my mic, but the thing has been a headache and a half ever since I switched to cachyOS.

in reply to rhabarba

If you mean interoperability there is libimobiledevice.org/ but honestly compared to what KDE Connect can offer with Android phones it's just ... lame.
in reply to ssillyssadass

I had issues with brand new hardware. Had to use testing on debian to get proper resolution.
in reply to ssillyssadass

nvidia cards are always giving people grief, especially on Wayland. Technically supported but practically not recommended if you want an easy time
in reply to communism

If you have a GTX 10xx card or later, their are virtually no issue with Wayland anymore. I have two PC with nvidia cards and had almost 0 issue with gnome plasma and hyprland in the last two years.
in reply to communism

Sadly I bought my PC before switching to Linux was on the agenda. And I don't have the money to change to AMD.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Don't be too sad, I'm playing and working daily with an NVIDIA for years now and it's just working.
in reply to communism

I always hear this, but I've been using Nvidia with Linux since 2004 and have never had any issues.
in reply to Mugmoor

I've had mixed experiences myself. Sometimes it works, sometimes it randomly breaks. I just wouldn't recommend it to someone who wants it to "just work" and be stable and not do maintenance. For me, I'm someone who's happy to do maintenance, but I don't want that to extend to my graphics card, which in this day and age ought to just work.
in reply to ssillyssadass

The touchpad in the Lenovo 300e is not supported; although the touchscreen does work.
I use mouse which is fine most of the time, but it would be nice if the touchpad would be supported one day.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Also my Ricoh SP211SU Laser printer is not supported, my workaround is using Windows via VirtualBox if I need to print anything.
in reply to ssillyssadass

I had an issue with an old Lenovo X260 laptop. The onboard bluetooth device was showing as not being present if the wireless device was loaded. I could have one or the other, but not both. BT/Wifi was being supplied by the same M.2 card, so as soon as a module loaded (the wireless loaded first I guess) it prevented it from being used by another module. I'm not sure if there was an actual fix to that, though. I had a spare USB bluetooth dongle so I just ran that instead.
in reply to ssillyssadass

There's this printer that I wanna use for my job but when I went through the process of connecting it the driver wasn't listed among the massive amount of options. So I gotta print using a work computer instead of my laptop 😪
in reply to ssillyssadass

Probably not the kind of hardware you're thinking of but I have an old Roland synthesizer, an Edirol SD-90, that did not work on Linux. Now, I didn't expect it to given the hoops I had to jump through just to get it to work on modern windows. So Linux seemed out of the question already. But can be a big deal depending on what you use your computer for.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Not technically hardware itself but Nvidia + Intel hybrid graphics have never really worked.
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in reply to qaz

So far I've been playing with Linux on my old work laptop and they've been playing together nicely. Almost everything else about the laptop? No. But hey at least graphics works.
in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble

A common issue with those hybrid graphics is that it simply doesn't switch and only uses one. Are you sure you're not just using either integrated graphics or your dedicated GPU all the time?
in reply to qaz

Oh trust me, I know pretty quickly when that 3080 turns on and when it turns back off. Hybrid graphics is what I've been fiddling with the most.
in reply to qaz

That was a nightmare I'll never recover from. That laptop is now running windows 11. It's what made me promise myself to never ever touch Nvidia ever again. I'm now all Red on my desktop and life is so much better.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Certain less well known smaller brands might not work as too few people know the HW

Same goes for very specialized hardware, if it wasn't on Linux to begin with, it probably won't work

in reply to ssillyssadass

Internal HDMI capture cards are barely supported, there are some professional brands like blackmagic that have support but nearly all consumer grade capture cards are not supported at all, because the companies who make them don't care about Linux.

USB based capture cards often work because they use the same standard protocols as USB cameras.

in reply to ssillyssadass

Some MediaTek WiFi cards are not supported. I had to replace one in a laptop.
in reply to cmnybo

Yeah I got a USB wifi dongle that's a bit tricky. It doesn't work out of the box in most distros but there is drivers for it that do work, fairly well.
in reply to cmnybo

I replaced a Realtek one because it constantly dropped connections. Luckily, this was one of the type of fixes that actually turned out to be easier than it looked.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Is there a broadcom firmware package you need to install? I have NEVER gotten away with neglecting that step on a broadcom card.
in reply to ssillyssadass

Anybody ever get Winmodems to work or did they all give up on it?

Back in the day, it was hard enough getting dialup internet working on Linux (especially before you had internet in your pocket, so you had to print out HowTos or write down a bunch of notes before you tried to do it).

But it was downright impossible with a class of modems that was designed essentially as a softmodem, heavily reliant on closed-source firmware and drivers, making them practically impossible to work on Linux.

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