Which X11 software keeps you from switching to Wayland?
For me AutoKey is absolutely essential to my workflow. I have tons of text expansions and shortcuts to "remap" keys. E.g., respectively, typing dAt expands into 2025-05-08, 13:47:40 CEST, and pressing alt + k simulates the arrow down key.
Secondly there's XScreenSaver which has so many wonderful (mathematical) visualizations that it would be a damn shame if these eventually get lost as Wayland gets more adoption.
None of these have Wayland alternatives as far as I know. For text expansion there's Espanso, but it doesn't support keyboard shortcuts yet.
GitHub - autokey/autokey: AutoKey, a desktop automation utility for Linux and X11.
AutoKey, a desktop automation utility for Linux and X11. - autokey/autokeyGitHub
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makingStuffForFun
in reply to arsCynic • • •Talon voice.
Autokey.
Anydesk. (although rustdesk is probably going to replace that)
Talon voice though. I'll need X11 for the rest of my life.
tetris11
in reply to arsCynic • • •AwesomeWM, and xdotool.
That's it. Oh and Xeyes of course
Übercomplicated
in reply to tetris11 • • •You might be interested in river as a awesome replacement:
codeberg.org/river/wiki
wiki
Codeberg.orgtetris11
in reply to Übercomplicated • • •Appreciate the link, and I don't mean to sound so ungrateful, but that extensive README contains everything except what exactly
riveris. Is it a desktop manager? A standalone compositor? What does it fix? What does it replace? etc.Edit: Oh, it's a tiling window manager, and all WM in wayland have to be compositors.
𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬
in reply to tetris11 • • •tetris11
in reply to 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬 • • •wtypeis much better at this, but is limited to keystrokesReversalHatchery
in reply to tetris11 • • •tetris11
in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •👀
x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man…
XEYES(1) manual page
www.x.orgEphera
in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •jaxxed
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in reply to jaxxed • • •Communist
in reply to tetris11 • • •Gamma
in reply to arsCynic • • •I accomplish the same thing with compose sequences, and by binding a keyboard shortcut in my desktop to call a script with
wtype. It's not a cross-compositor solution though, as you'd have to manually setup binds in each of them.I don't see much hope for this one-to-one unfortunately.
stravanasu
in reply to Gamma • • •github.com/xremap/xremap
GitHub - xremap/xremap: Key remapper for X11 and Wayland
GitHubMactan
in reply to Gamma • • •superglue
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in reply to superglue • • •nevm
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in reply to nevm • • •ReversalHatchery
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in reply to AnAmericanPotato • • •Beej Jorgensen
in reply to arsCynic • • •Mark
in reply to arsCynic • •Linux reshared this.
SigHunter
in reply to arsCynic • • •LeFantome
in reply to SigHunter • • •Samsy
in reply to arsCynic • • •LeFantome
in reply to Samsy • • •??
RDP works on Wayland.
moe93
in reply to LeFantome • • •𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬
in reply to arsCynic • • •esa
in reply to 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬 • • •superkret
in reply to arsCynic • • •jh29a
in reply to superkret • • •superkret
in reply to jh29a • • •LeFantome
in reply to superkret • • •What are you running?
SDDM 0.20 supports Wayland (marked experimental). Version 0.21 is out now.
superkret
in reply to LeFantome • • •packages.debian.org/trixie/sdd…
Debian's build still depends on an xserver.
Debian -- Details of package sddm in trixie
packages.debian.orgAllNewTypeFace
in reply to arsCynic • • •DetachablePianist
in reply to arsCynic • • •RustDesk (remote desktop control) and Barriers (KVM-like server to control my laptop screen from my desktop just by moving mouse to that screen). Both of these are tightly integrated in my daily workflow and would be a hard loss.
There's a modern fork of Barriers but I haven't been able to get it working cross-platform yet. I know RustDesk is actively working to complete wayland support, but it's not quite there yet.
1smoothcriminal
in reply to DetachablePianist • • •DetachablePianist
in reply to 1smoothcriminal • • •RustDesk on Wayland can't run headless, which I need (unless they fixed already and I just haven't noticed yet - I know they've been working on it!)
Yeah, Input-leap is the Barriers fork I was referring to. I need it to work on all platforms though, and I wasn't able to get it working on macOS. I keep checking periodically tho (usually in response to posts like these - I wanna move Wayland like everyone else!)
gnuplusmatt
in reply to DetachablePianist • • •Termight
in reply to arsCynic • • •GDK_BACKEND=x11environment variable to be set before they'll function.Frosty
in reply to Termight • • •Termight
in reply to Frosty • • •True. AppImages are often convenient because they run w/o requiring any env settings.
ReversalHatchery
in reply to arsCynic • • •far_university1990
in reply to arsCynic • • •LeFantome
in reply to far_university1990 • • •Pardon?
GNOME defaults to Wayland. GNOME 49 is going to remove X11 support all together.
far_university1990
in reply to LeFantome • • •MonkderVierte
in reply to arsCynic • • •wewbull
in reply to arsCynic • • •LeFantome
in reply to wewbull • • •waypipe: A transparent proxy for Wayland applications | waypipe Commands | Man Pages | ManKier
www.mankier.comVITecNet
in reply to arsCynic • • •GitHub - thjaeger/easystroke: X11 gesture recognition application
GitHubashaman2007
in reply to VITecNet • • •github.com/jersou/mouse-action…
It's recommended by the easystroke dev too: github.com/thjaeger/easystroke…
GitHub - jersou/mouse-actions: mouse-actions execute some command from mouse events such as clicks/wheel on the side/corners of the screen, or drawing shapes. It's a mix between Easystroke and Compiz edge commands.
GitHubVITecNet
in reply to ashaman2007 • • •beleza pura
in reply to arsCynic • • •keepassxc's autotype
also, nvidia
muhyb
in reply to beleza pura • • •beleza pura
in reply to muhyb • • •dubyakay
in reply to beleza pura • • •Hey, I'm in the same boat. Gigabyte GTX 670. Wayland was a sluggish mess, and same goes for nouveau with X11.
I bit the bullet after eight months of running Arch like this, and experimenting around with newer iGPUs in laptops, and bought a new radeon finally. Time to retire this ancient piece of tech.
gradual
in reply to dubyakay • • •670 is still better than nothing.
Hopefully it can find its way to someone else's home on the cheap and still give them plenty of years of fun.
muhyb
in reply to beleza pura • • •beleza pura
in reply to muhyb • • •muhyb
in reply to beleza pura • • •beleza pura
in reply to muhyb • • •yup. i think it had something to do with video calls or screen sharing, which are essential at work
muhyb
in reply to beleza pura • • •ColdWater
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in reply to ColdWater • • •blackbrook
in reply to arsCynic • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to arsCynic • • •I'm too dumb to set up Wayland on Nvidia and honestly don't really care to. My laptop has an intel haswell-ult so it works with Wayland ootb and all the apps I use on it (literally just calibre, falkon, lapce and libreoffice Writer) work fine.
Edit: spelling
jh29a
in reply to arsCynic • • •ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
in reply to arsCynic • • •x11
i am not gonna go with any of the idiotchanges. lost me at systemd, flatpaks and so on
moronic people like lennard poettering and everyone at red hat are a desease.
i will start downgrading Iinux PCs to Windows10 just to not have any of the broken linux promises.
do ONE thing but do it right.
kylian0087
in reply to ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ • • •LeFantome
in reply to kylian0087 • • •RHEL10 is probably a month away from being the first distro to ship without even the option of using Xorg. It is not even going to be in the repos.
Other distros will follow their lead.
If you are a fan of x11, not liking Red Hat makes sense.
Magnus Åhall
in reply to arsCynic • • •For me is the lack of virtual displays is Wayland.
I'm using a 49" monitor (with i3) and split it into virtual monitors/displays. For some tasks two displays are good, for others three, and all doesn't need to be the same size.
The reason for not using i3 splits is that many programs have fullscreen functions that I often use.
Watching a movie is one example, where I have a script that automatically calculate the optimal width without borders and gives me an extra virtual display beside with whatever's left.
Estebiu
in reply to Magnus Åhall • • •breakcore
in reply to Estebiu • • •andreax
in reply to arsCynic • • •I would really like to see xtrlock find its way into the Wayland session!
But at the moment, it's only available for wlroots based compositors...
wlroots / wlroots · GitLab
GitLabWally Hackenslacker
in reply to arsCynic • • •Omega
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in reply to arsCynic • • •Mwa
in reply to arsCynic • • •interdimensionalmeme
in reply to arsCynic • • •Couldn't use xset to manually set some monitors to standby
So I searched how to change it back to X.
Also you couldn't set display variable to another computer's ip address (a windows one running xming)
HaraldvonBlauzahn
in reply to arsCynic • • •gradual
in reply to arsCynic • • •I'm using Wayland right now, but tentatively.
Right now there's an issue in WoW where sometimes when I move my mouse and left-click, the camera jumps to a different position, usually trying to look up.
Only happens on Wayland and it's fixed temporarily by switching between windowed and fullscreen mode. The problem comes back sometimes when alt-tabbing and refocusing the game.
There was a bug in KDE recently where some menus weren't properly appearing on Wayland, but that seems to have been fixed after my latest update.
fxdave
in reply to arsCynic • • •Communist
in reply to arsCynic • • •I just need steam\proton\wine to support native wayland and then I'll remove xwayland from my system, can't wait
i'm on hyprland though
Jerkface (any/all)
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