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I've been saying this for years: ebikes should have USB-C PD ports for charging!

Finally a manufacturer has actually done it. In this case using 140W power delivery, which is way higher power than any ebike charger I've ever used. And USB-C PD now supports up to 240W, which is more than enough for ebikes.

I hope this becomes the norm:

theverge.com/news/639681/usb-c…

Finally, an e-bike that charges off USB-C

The Ampler Nova e-bikes can be charged in three hours using a standard 140W USB-C PD 3.1 laptop charger.
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mayor of tr*nny town
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I wonder if down the line we'll get adapters for Bosch e-systems. Would be nice to at least get a trickle charge in an emergency. I don't like carrying my charger if I don't need to.
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Laura
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Now i hope one of those wacky inventor Youtubers makes an Adapter to charge an electric car with like 10-15 240W USB-C PD ports.

[No idea how feasible and how car charging actually works, i don't have a license, i just divided 230VΓ—16A by 240W 😁 since i think they can charge on normal sockets?]

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Jβ€”dV
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Nice! But I still don't love the ebikes with built in batteries. Batteries don't last forever and replacing thoseβ€”if it's even possible, and if the parts are available n years from nowβ€”seems like a pain. I worry we are losing the repairability advantage of bicycles.
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Marielle Quinton
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Marielle Quinton
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I'm actually surprised it isn't an EU law πŸ€”
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Mark
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You have to remember that EU legislation is a slow process, the USB-C PD requirement only applies to devices under 100W since that's all it went up to when they started writing that law.
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FellwingπŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
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It has been at the back of my mind for a long time, it is just one of those "Why not?" cases and it would be great to have
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Szymon BΔ™czkowski
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Agree. I have two ebikes in my household and I have two giant ~100W chargers. If the battery runs out when we are visiting friends there is no way to top up the battery.
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Corban
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For a second there I was thinking theres no way ebike chargers are that underpowered but i just checked and yep. 84W. My laptop takes 130W.

I wonder if we'll ever see adapters or updated battery packs for bikes with the port on the pack itself.

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Johann
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This makes so much sense. This way you can use the same charger for your bike that you use for your phone/laptop which means you can charge anywhere, not just where you store your specialty bike charger.
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Bastian
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I will do you one better: I hope manufacturers will sell new batteries with USB-C PD for their older models. I would buy one. I may even buy two.
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Karsten Eger
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Imho DJI and its Avinox will follow, then fazua, Specialized. And the last will be Brose and or Bosch.
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Jana πŸ”œ 39C3 (DECT 5262)
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That's amazing. I've been waiting for more devices to adopt USB C charging. Never thought of e bikes, but I'll happily take it.
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NEO//LIX πŸ”Š
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Wait, this is actually serious? I saw it scrolling by, and thought it was an April fools joke. πŸ˜…
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Daniel, aka. CactiChameleon9
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I wish we move to legalizing ebikes with (at least) higher power rated moters for longevity reasons, allowing more speed would be nice too
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Elliot Mackness
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Another thing that is desperately needed IMO is secure cycle parking/charging at every large supermarket and shopping mall/area.

It would be great to have a common standard for charging that every secure parking can offer for riders.

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Jeffrey
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That is awesome! The other way around seems to be difficult too, as I've heard from my bike shop. Would love to have a bike that can charge my phone during my commute, but my Shimano motor/battery would not support that in the near future.
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I've had a USB port fail on a phone before. I don't think they are a robust solution for frequent charging of larger devices.
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Jiang Jiang
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Personally I think Bosch set a bad example in this area by innovating too little and too slowly.
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Charlie Stross
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Not only that: it should be possible to plug your phone/tablet/laptop into your bike for a top-up over USB-C PD2. (Ahem: some sort of device authorization mechanism will be necessary to stop random strangers draining parked bikes for shits and giggles.)
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Peter
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I do wonder: does it charge from slower chargers as well? Like a 60W one or even lower?
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ΓΏ
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Should be introduced for any "household" appliance IMHO β€” toothbrush, modern handheld vaccum cleaner, blood pressure monitor, … simply *anything* that can be charged with 5 / 9 / 15 volts anyway
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Kaito
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hopefully the _idea_ becomes more widespread as it is very hard to have an ebike shipped across Earth
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Laibrayreeee
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That's sick! I've seen at least a few people modifying their own bikes to support USB-C PD over the past few years so it's nice to see what this can do in the hands of a manufacturer.
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Tofu Golem
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How many watts until we get a situation like the 12VHPWR connectors melting on all those Nvidia graphics cards?
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Mark
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Well it's up to 48V like PoE, so 4 times as much until hitting that many amps.
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@funbaker that is completely incorrect. There are plenty of weather resistant and weatherproof USB-C connector options out there.
@funbaker; Je suis Antifa
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ZAC
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I will be impressed when companies stop thinking of ways to continue to rip off the consumer. IF they truly wanted to help the environment, they would come up with small solar panels for the frame to constantly charge up the source.
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@DesertStormVeteran91 solar is not efficient enough to be worth installing on ebikes. It's been tried many times before.
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Ray Gulick, he/him/wtf πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ βŒπŸ‘‘
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Yeah, no. I gotta wheel my ebike into the house to charge, instead of just popping the battery out and bringing it inside?
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Gerard
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there was a Spanish manufacturer who put a USB A on the bike 5 years ago. But I can't remember the name or find it online. I didn't buy it though, I chose a Xiaomi Qicycle.
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Bigfood
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USB-C is nice, but it's the stupidest standard at the same time.
I have seen at least 12 USB-C ports breaking in the last 6 months.

Having an adapter or both connectors would be a good solution.

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joelimgu
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all ebike batteries should have the option to be charged with usbc, its crazy how no one has done that
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