The only things I really care about the security of is my bank and my Steam account. And both of those, as well as my email accounts, have 2FA so even if you guess it, you can't get in.
I'm not sure what good an offline password manager would be... if you just mean self-hosted, Bitwarden and Vaultwarden both support that.
I tried KeePass and a couple variants like KeePassXC at one point and found them clunky and difficult to use effectively across multiple devices. Definitely not a good place for new users to start, and I'm not sure what problem they solve that isn't better served by Vaultwarden (assuming the main idea is to not use a commercial product).
KeePass solves the problem of existing long before any of the networked one. Back in 2003 most people didn't even have multiple devices to keep in sync, or if they did they kept the database file on a floppy disk.
Yeah, I sort of agree that networked password safes nowadays are objectively better than offline ones like KeePass. However, KeePass isn't fully obsolete due to them, as it still offers an additional layer of security compared to online ones, as you effectively put their trust into these services. With an offline database however you aren't subjected to the whims of the provider you put your trust in, but rather the software you use. And of course, your system can also be compromised, rendering this advantage null and void, but an online database wouldn't help with that either.
Overall, this advantage is overkill for most users, granted. Still, it's pretty important tool for those who are under threat of surveillance, or those who don't like to trust online systems.
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in reply to NaibofTabr • • •Alternatively, KeePass is a good offline solution, if you have a way to sync the password database.
It even allows usernames and passwords as references, in case one login is required for multiple services.
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in reply to Blemgo • • •Syncthing is great for syncing it decentrally between your devices
A shared Nextcloud folder is also a good option
NaibofTabr
in reply to Blemgo • • •I'm not sure what good an offline password manager would be... if you just mean self-hosted, Bitwarden and Vaultwarden both support that.
I tried KeePass and a couple variants like KeePassXC at one point and found them clunky and difficult to use effectively across multiple devices. Definitely not a good place for new users to start, and I'm not sure what problem they solve that isn't better served by Vaultwarden (assuming the main idea is to not use a commercial product).
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in reply to Mark • • •Yeah, I sort of agree that networked password safes nowadays are objectively better than offline ones like KeePass. However, KeePass isn't fully obsolete due to them, as it still offers an additional layer of security compared to online ones, as you effectively put their trust into these services. With an offline database however you aren't subjected to the whims of the provider you put your trust in, but rather the software you use. And of course, your system can also be compromised, rendering this advantage null and void, but an online database wouldn't help with that either.
Overall, this advantage is overkill for most users, granted. Still, it's pretty important tool for those who are under threat of surveillance, or those who don't like to trust online systems.
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