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How many friends do you have ?
I have 1. 🥲
Depending on your definition.
Probably dozens.
People I talk to daily shooting the shit? Probably 10 or so.
I can confidently say 2. i can delusionally say 6.
I have 4 that I would consider close friends. Sometime having a small group of friends is good.
You’re doing better than I am.
I know people. We get along. But friends? Nope.
Does my husband count? If so, one 🙁
That's not sad if you like him
It's kinda crazy. I'm 41 now and 10 or 15 years ago i often read that people said that they have no friend. And i thought that's more of a joke, like people knline joke about how they wanna kill themselves or whatever, because i had multiple friend groups, and would see a lot of them almost daily.
Suddenly, people moved away, were in relationships, had kids, died or you just realized that you are not friends anymore.
I talked to my girlfriend about our wedding and she asked me who i would invite. I had to think for a bit and said, i dunno, my sister... And that's pretty much it, since i marry my best and kind of only friend. Then she thought about it and said: my parents, and... Fuck, i don't have any friends either, except you.
- My friend and my wife. I'm not a disagreeable person. I have a fair few friendly acquaintances, but I'm not willing to put in the energy for more actual friends
I'd say I have a good handful. I'm not good at getting close to people, so some toe the line for me between acquaintance and friend. For a numerical, I suppose if we count those toeing the line - maybe a dozen or so? Maybe 15?
I've been very lucky as an adult to find a lot of good people. 99% of them are from playing TTRPGs online.
Where does one go to start playing these games?
It's a bit tricky nowadays to find a solid game. There's plenty of LFG things on either Reddit or any of the discords for your desired TTRPG - usually numbers favor DnD5e, but there's a fair few on Pathfinder 2e nowadays too.
However, the best luck I've had in more recent years has been on startplaying.games - where you can find a paid DM/GM. (Not a shill, just what I have personally experienced)
I could go into what I believe the benefits of a paid vs unpaid game are, but that's a lot of extra for just this.
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People I talk to every day: 2
People I feel able to confide in regularly: 3
People I occasionally invite over for a party: 15
Acquaintances I enjoy being around at social functions: maybe 50
None of the categories count my kids, other people’s kids, or family except for my wife
Also, I think my numbers are inflated because of how many bands I was in when I was younger. The community of that music scene was something I’m not sure I’ll ever see again. But I do play dnd every week, which helps too.
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Close friends that I talk to almost daily? Like 4
Friends that I talk to about once a week or more? Like 10-15
Friends that I rarely talk to, but would hang out with time permitting? Like 30. Most are co workers that I’ll go drinking with after work.
30?? How do you keep track of so many people ^^
2 very close friends, my wife that's my friend, another close friend, and at least another dozen I would consider friends. Then there are many acquaintances that I enjoy associating with, but we're not a as close and don't talk frequently. Also a brother, sister, and BiL that I'm close with and do friend things with.
Never had any, I'm probably for the best given the many problems of society
I realize not close ones, but my partner is for sure my #1. Hard to rely on the one for everything, and social anxiety trying to make new friends as I get older is even more daunting. Lesson to the youth - take care to have friends as you age!
I'm 50. I only have time for acquaintances. Close friends take way too much time.
I have 9; 5 are uni classmates I’m on a 2-semester project with, and the other 4 are:
-A retired public-sector official old enough to be my grandmother
-A semi-retired realtor also old enough to be my grandmother
-Another realtor who used to work for the first realtor but now is an exec at another company
-His notary-public and possibly-also-CIA longtime boyfriend
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Not sure at this point but it is getting less and less. It becomes harder to hold them together as time goes. I know I need to exert more effort but it sucks if your friends don't reach out at all. Starting transition, while being the best decision of my life, has really not helped in that regard. Although I can be happy to only have lost one friend directly from that.
Many comments mention "people i talk to every day". Is that really a common thing? Literally daily? I have a couple good friends, but definitely none I talk to daily 😅
For me it is more about being friends for many years and always having a good time when we meet. At most I chat 2-3 times a week with some.
3 good ones and maybe 5 outside of that. I'm pretty bad at keeping up with them honestly. Sometimes I message them and they're like yo its been 6 months where you been, yeah sorry I got obsessed with something and forgot the world exists.
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Does speaking a second language make you feel emotionally detached?
For example you might use swear words casually or come off as insensitive without even realizing it. Your intention might be to give an empathetic or thoughtful response, but instead, you just sound cold
Have you ever experienced this?
Never. You just need to learn the social weight of the words you use in the context your in. I’ve heard 10 year olds shouting the F word in class and their teacher never batted an eye because they didn’t speak English there. Caught me off guard, but nobody “gets” that it’s bad. It’s just a funny sound people say a lot in foreign films to them. Someday they’ll embarrass themselves in an English speaking country and figure it out.
True, though it's pretty normal (and unfortunate) for kids to swear like sailors in their native language
But what I’m actually referring to is the psychological feeling of just being less emotionally attached to your second language when you speak it no matter how old you become
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I'm not really at that stage yet. When I manage to swear in mandarin I tend to pat myself on the back for not saying fuck or shit.
We all start somewhere 😀
No. But I find many things sound natural to me in English (2nd) while sounding weird in my native language.
It's not the matter of translation or phrasing, instead it's that I am not used to discussing some topics in my native language, going to the point of feeling uncomfortable to say or write.
It might have happened, but people have not called me out on it. I keep far away from swear words while learning a new language.
Something I am struggelig with however, is being seen as less intelligent and less capable because I am speaking with an accent and/or bad grammar. Constantly being seen as less valuable.
This is normally only a problem when conversing with monolinguals. Almost anyone who has expended the immense energy required to learn a second language will understand that language ability and intelligence are completely separate.
That being said, it is a shitty feeling that I have experienced many times.
Ironically, this is not what emotional detachment means. It’s a psychological state, not a problem in communication.
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In some capacity, yes. English is my second language and I noticed it feels different (sometimes) to say or think something in it as opposed to my native language.
I found that sometimes my brain prefers thinking something in English because it feels more detached than doing it in my native language.
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What chore do you avoid?
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Mopping. I fucking hate mopping
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Going to get groceries. I have a bunch of soylent, so I wait until I reallllyyy have to. I just really don't like being around combustion engines.
I don't mind mopping. I love the part where you wring out the mop and all the dirt you picked up falls into the bucket.
Making the bed. There's no saying I gotta do it, so it's never getting made 🤷
Yeah, I never understood this. It's a bed, why should I make it look tidy, the only people who will see it are family (so I don't care) or people about to get into the bed with me (so it's going to be untidy in about 0.3 seconds). Martha Stewart isn't going to stop by and grade the house, or take photos for a magazine. It'd be like washing and waxing the car every day before you go anywhere. Nobody cares.
The laundry belongs to a very lovely cat.
If I move the laundry for another washing, the lovely cat will simply hair up another pile of something.
Dusting, mostly because every single free surface is filled with clutter. So simple dusting becomes a full blown spring cleaning. In addition the clutter is generally not left by me and cleaning it up irritates me too much.
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In this mini episode I address some feedback from episode 1 and add some more tips to hopefully make this project a little bit more useful for anyone following along at home. Thanks so much everyone for the great feedback and suggestions - they're really appreciated and I'm taking them all on board to make this series even better!
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In the first of a new series, learn how to make a simple adapter to use your Neo Geo AES arcade controller with everything that uses the Atari joystick standard, including (but not limited to): Atari 8-bit, Atari 2600, Atari ST, Commodore Amiga, C64, Commodore 128 & Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
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Meta's Muse Is Building Dossiers on Your Friends and Family, Even If They Never Signed Up, Internal Files Reveal
Meta's Muse may be marketed as a helpful personal assistant, but internal instructions reviewed by TIME and extracted by an independent researcher indicate that the AI agent is designed to build detailed, continuously updated profiles of users and people in their lives, including people who have never used Muse themselves.Muse has grown rapidly since its 8 September launch, with more than 4 million people using the assistant in some way at least once a week, according to internal figures reviewed by The Information. The findings raise questions about how much an AI assistant can learn about people who never chose to use it.
TIME's analysis found that Muse's internal instructions call for updating these profiles roughly every hour, using information about people mentioned in chats, messages, and emails the assistant can access. The profiles can include how users met their contacts, shared interests, disagreements, and 'tensions and alliances' within their social circles.
WIRED separately reported that Muse's instructions call for creating 'a page for every person in the user's life,' including family, partners, friends, colleagues, collaborators, and people the user follows. As a result, people who have never used Muse could still appear in a user's relationship profiles if information about them is available to the assistant.
Quelle surprise.
Meta's Muse Is Building Dossiers on Your Friends and Family, Even If They Never Signed Up, Internal Files Reveal
Meta's Muse AI reportedly builds detailed profiles of users and their contacts, including people who never used it, raising privacy concerns.Regyl Jaen (International Business Times UK)
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They've been doing that for a decade or longer as Facebook itself. Not that it's right but not new.
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How come Ansar Allah seems to be winning so well?
Okay, so Ansar Allah..
- is fighting a civil war
- is fighting a war against Saudi Arabia
- is surrounded by either their enemies or the sea
- is poorer than Iran or Russia
- has less people than Iran or Russia
Yet they seem to be doing a better job?
What's going on?
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Decentralized area with poor infrastructure. Population unlikely to betray intelligence.
Hard to hit targets if you don't know what the target looks like.
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yemen was occupied by joint forces of saudi arabia and UAE, before the iran war the UAE took their soldiers from the country and the gap wasn't filled, which made controlling the houthis a very much different and difficult issue. furthermore, iran has been steadily destroying the empire's military bases and support gear which makes everything more difficult. yemen has a history of struggle, so that also plays a big role.
ultimately, it's not necessarily money, or advanced tech that wins wars, but rather knowing how to use what you have to your advantage. history is filled with smaller enemies beating giants. the us hasn't won a war in decades.
- Tunnels and missiles are currently OP against military bases, ships and planes.
- Saudi military is well funded, but not necessarily well trained.
- Iran and Russia actually have to hold back from certain actions for diplomatic reasons.
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NetMirror APK — stream movies and series on Android (setup guide)
Hey everyone — I recently started using NetMirror APK for watching movies and series on my Android phone and figured I'd share a short setup guide since a few friends asked how it works.
NetMirror is a free third-party streaming app for Android. It pulls together movies and TV shows in one clean interface, with HD playback, subtitles, and a watchlist so you can keep track of what you're watching. It's not on the Play Store, so you install it by downloading the APK file directly — that takes about two minutes.
Safe install steps: 1) Grab the installer from the official NetMirror APK for Android page. 2) When Android asks, allow your browser to install unknown apps — just for that one install, then switch the permission back off. 3) Open the downloaded file, tap install, and launch the app. Keep the app updated from the same official page so you always have the latest version.
One caution: only download from the official site. Random APK mirrors and 'modded' builds floating around forums are the classic way junkware reaches phones.
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Learn about NetMirror for Android, APK download, installation, latest versions, compatibility, safety checks, and important tips before installing.NetMirror
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Installed it ,sends me too ads page, dumped it.
Installed it ,sends me too ads page, dumped it.
I think there are more legit software to use Miracast/ DLNA protocol.
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It's Sunday 10/11/2026. Hey, What's Going On!
Going on a Ghost and True Crime walking tour tonight for Halloween.
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Chores chores chores chores!
I can't move the big drawererer thing in the backbackroom. But I'll keep trying because I don't want to ask the family friend to do this, he already took the 'mattress' out for us. (the other bulk items I can drag, since bulk is a broad term for pickup and most are quite small actually) Also the trash is packed this week because the room cleaning went...well.
I need more shelves in there, and I'd like a cheap chest freezer. Anyone got one that is max 30 inch depth, 38 inch width, and height whatever?? Hm hmmm. Maybe a holiday gift this year.
Have you tried putting the drawererer thing on its back on top of a blanket or tarp and moving it that way?
Not judging. I have a really heavy dresser I paid people to move.
Tip: Buy real wooden furniture at auction. It's usually cheaper than new and it's lighter and repairable.
So I did actually move it. I removed a lot of things from it (there were a few heavy items, but none as heavy as the entire fully wooden chest of drawers) and then I managed to wiggle one set of wheels (it was wheeled? Well they were rusty) onto the carpet, make enough room on the other side for my ass to get between it and the wall and just shoved it down.
So now I can clean the little piece of linoleum!
My dresser had a set of four wheels that:
- did not roll and
- immediately fell out if you picked the dresser up an inch and
- were almost impossible to put back in.
Glad you got to that little patch of linoleum!
I remember the movement some er...almost 20 years ago was a lot more fraught, but it was being moved by truck to here. I'm surprised it stuck together after 20 more fraught years. But it has! Yay for it!
Do we have a dresser tax similar to a cat tax?
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Wow! That's a beautiful dresser! I can see why you've held onto it.
I have concerns about water stains from that plant, though. I'll be ok.
Plant has a leeetle water dish under it! No staining.
Oh, you mean you don't just keep pouring water into the plant until your sneakers are wet? That's my method.
Haha nooooo! The poor basil would drown. As it is, it only needs watering every few days! And a scant amount at that.
I love those. The cheesier the better for me.
Had a mostly free day yesterday, so I made steaks and this specific cauliflower recipe. Unlike most youtube videos, I got the exact same result as the video. It took a few more minutes of roasting, but I'm willing to blame my weird oven for that. It was awesome, scaled up to feed three people, and cleanup was minimal.
Today: snow! On the one hand, I'm happy the climate is behaving for once. On the other hand, I now have to shovel the snow.
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It's Thanksgiving dinner day plus delivering juice for my grandfather's wine supply. I was able to help out with my local food bank's Thanksgiving dinner special service. It was very inspiring, I was dishwashing for the kitchen but got to see what a very professionally run dinner service looks like but without the waste of a for profit type of fancy dinner service.
I'm also trying a task manager program on my desktop called "Super productivity" which had me thinking about my outstanding "projects." Turns out I have a lot of projects in various states of incomplete.
I'm not sure how effective setting up a personal ticketing/project management system is going to be I've tried pen and paper and physical agendas but it never stuck. I like it so far, I chose it because it's free and open source without pushing any privately hosted subscription add on (no AI or cloud service unless you go out of your way to integrate them).
Anyways Thanks!
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That's pretty much what the Black Panthers did in California in the 1960's. They organized armed marches through California cities and within a year or two the state had passed very restrictive gun control laws.
I often with we could organize a armed, unified, poc and queer movement that regularly demonstrated. Sort of a modern take on Fred Hampton's Rainbow Coalition, but with guns. Worse case gun laws change, best case, they listen.
I can think of a couple other worst cases.
To shreds you say?
Amazing, in 50 years it went from real black resistance to the complete population of any color being pacified slaves resigning in their fate.
Uhh... I'm in the UAW and most of the people I know have a couple guns at least.
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Ever since the Red Scares[1][2] and the Taft-Hartley Act, all labor unions in the US have been yellow, except for the IWW. If you want a militant labor union, you’ll have to create it from scratch.
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You want more people to get shot?
It's less about "more" and more about changing who
Maybe that's what you'd get in the long run, and maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I'd be worried about an escalation in violence (or the expectation of violence) leading to more dead innocents.
If nothing else this would make them want do gun control.
That has been tried before, in the US. It ended somewhat poorly for the unions, though long term it did drive change. Ultimately, unless your goal is a violent insurrection, being armed really only helps to protect you from other violent militias. That can be important when the government can't or won't prevent their activities (see the KKK and Pinkertons) but if they have full government backing, or the government just outright uses the military, you're now in the thick of an armed rebellion. More often than not, those are a bad plan.,
Labor unions leverage their labor in negotiations. I'm all for people being armed, but not for those types of negotiations.
Gun control is a terrible idea right now
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I'm not gay nor have I been to a live DJ night at a gay bar nor am I a straight girl, but I would wager that anyone coming in a gay bar isn't a problem as long as they're not being a dick, just like with any other bar.
I imagine one reason for coming to a gay bar as a gay person is to feel more confident in who you can "approach".
People are still going to say no? It just increases the density of options.
Yeah, that was my only point, that it reduces the risk of hitting on someone who doesn't share your preference.
You’ll run up into that barrier everywhere. It’s called discrimination for a reason.
Not entirely sure if I understand your comment, but I guess my point is that a gay bar would be a place where you don't expect to run into that. 👍
More the merrier, just don't be a dick.
I am for it. Side note, some straight people are questioning their sexuality and should be allowed access to spaces where they can learn and explore in a safe way.
I'm a gay woman and I'm cool with it. More women the better.
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Instead of guns, why not regulate ammo?
So yeah you can fire a bullet so many different ways, a rusty nail and hammer will do the trick. Isn't the real problem the frickin bullet?
I swear in Sweden or something, you can take a gun home but ammo is only sold and consumed at the range and not for taking home.
Sure, you can make this a hollistic approach regulating guns and ammo, but the ammo seems to be the bigger issue here. You can make guns easy peasy, but ammo is much harder to manufacture and easier to regulate.
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Unironically, Chris Rock said exactly this in his 1999 comedy special "Bigger and Blacker".
Chris Rock -- Bullet Control (HD)
Chris Rock -- Bullet ControlThis clip is from Chris Rock's stand up special "Bigger and Blacker"In this clip, Chris is talking about bullet and gun control, ...HDStandUp (YouTube)
Exactly the thing I was reminded of
From my perspective both should be regulated.
ammo is much harder to manufacture
I'm not sure if that's true. I don't have any experience with it myself, but lead is notoriously easy to cast at home, because of its low melting point.
So it seems to me, all it takes to make some (shitty) ammo is some lead, a mould (which you can make from clay) and an explosive.
For a proper modern gun, that last piece is probably pretty difficult, and you would need to make casings somehow too (I'm not sure how difficult that would be). But if you were using some form of (possibly homemade) flintlock or similar, the gunpowder from fireworks should be enough.
I think regulating both guns and ammo is the way to go.
The primers are the only part that people don't regularly manufacturer at home.
Smokeless and hopefully black powder don't explode, they just burn quickly. The primer is a shock-sensitive explosive tho.
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I wouldn't say ammo is easier to regulate at all. The average gun owner keeps several boxes of handgun ammo and 500-1000 rounds of rifle ammo on hand to start so none of that ammo will be caught by your regulation.
If you outright banned the new purchase of ammo it would take years before the effects are really noticed, especially considering the rush to buy up every bullet on the market before the ban went into effect. Afterwords you'd see gun owners driving to a state without an ammo ban.
If you slapped a max limit on ownership, say you can't have more than 50 rounds of ammo per gun, that wouldn't have stopped almost any of the mass shooters in the last 10 years who almost all fired less than 50 shots on their rampages. Not to mention enforcing that law would be next to impossible because you'd basically need a signed warrant to check a house for illegal amounts of ammo or catch them in transit.
If you put a massive tax on ammo combined with a max purchase limit, let's say 1,000% tax and a limit of 50 rounds per ID card per day, it would be business as usual, just more expensive.
One thing that might be worth exploring would be an ammo purchase registry. Gun owners haaaaaate their names on lists aand fight it tooth an nail on guns, but they don't have the protection of the 2nd amendment for ammo. Who knows it might have a chilling effect. Or just drive more transactions through the gun show/private seller loop holes.
Gun owners haaaaaate their names on lists aand fight it tooth an nail on guns, but they don’t have the protection of the 2nd amendment for ammo.
Winds are blowing the other way: short barreled rifles and shotguns, as well as suppressors no longer go through the NFA process as of like two days ago, so details are in short supply.
Gun owners haaaaaate their names on lists
I maintain that lists of all kinds are the bigger threat to the country right now. With all the data that has already been gathered it's just a matter of time before some upstart company tells a government agency that it can play the Kevin Bacon game with their database and produce a list of that will result in results. Company gets to keep a local copy of the database because nobody thought about data privacy/protections when they cut the check.
If you slapped a max limit on ownership, say you can’t have more than 50 rounds of ammo per gun, that wouldn’t have stopped almost any of the mass shooters in the last 10 years who almost all fired less than 50 shots on their rampages.
It would; however, put a damper on anyone funding their own training. I doubt anyone's going from nothing to being a crack shot in 50 rounds, or even 500.
chilling effect
Those are bad everywhere. I wish that court case in DC that decided a defacto ban (on guns) amounted to a for-realsy ban, and was therefore unconstitutional.
I agree with most of what you're saying. OP asked so I tried to game it out the best I could. Personally I think we need to approach gun legislation like we do cars. License to carry in public, strict rules about thier usage, and automatic max penalties and enhanced charges for any crime committed while carrying a gun (legally or otherwise), which can include losing your carry license.
I would say though that your trainer wouldn't be thwarted by a bullet ownership limit either, it would just slow down their training. They'd buy their 50, shoot them, then have to buy more all of which could be done at the range.
I broadly agree with you about lists, eventually they will be misused. But the chilling effort would be the point. A chilling effect isn't universally a bad thing, modern HR practices had a chilling effect on sexual harassment in the workplace, banning nazi symbols had a chilling effect on the spread of fascist ideals in post war germany, etc. In this case the chilling effect of reducing the amount of ammo purchased might be beneficial.
Chilling effects also maintain sundown towns, keep LGBTQ people out of certain places, and the last time I checked nazi symbolism was back in vogue 🙁
I think we need to approach gun legislation like we do cars. License to carry in public, strict rules about thier usage, and automatic max penalties and enhanced charges for any crime committed while carrying a gun (legally or otherwise), which can include losing your carry license.
The USA is big, and not every county/town constablulatory has left the good ole' boy network behind. You can get on the banned list by doing either the right thing or the wrong thing, and a towns full of grey men who can't speak up isn't an attractive future, and it's some people's realities. Those licenses to carry have to be approved by the locals after all.
I don't disagree with the spirit of what you said about max penalties or enhanced charges, but there've been some serious injustices to lay down at Mandatory Minimum Sentencing's feet when it's been put into practice, and I don't trust the current crop of people not to misuse it. We can't even get enhanced charges for misuse of public trust positions right.
I would say though that your trainer wouldn’t be thwarted by a bullet ownership limit either, it would just slow down their training.
You took it wrong or I misspoke; I was talking about the ability for someone to go get practice on their own without having to ask for permission. A box of 50 .22 is like $10 and closer to the size of a pack of gum (or half the size of a harmonica, or whatever size comparison the kids are using these days). I couldn't justify putting my name on a law that gave Keanu Reeves carte blanche to go train for a new John Wick movie when the average American is under greater restrictions. Where I am I learned from my father and there are ample public lands reserved for the purpose, plus any private land you can convince someone to practice at. Not every place in America has that luxury, though, and not every law is going to fit every place well.
OP asked so I tried to game it out the best I could.
Me, too. Good faith questions and answers are good things. As for strict usage, I think we already have that for the most part. Before adding any more laws I'd really like to see a national agreement on terminology as to what open carry, concealed carry, and all the terms really mean from a legal standpoint. I remember reading stories from when COVID was taking off that folks in California decided it might be time to get armed and didn't realize what the process there really involves. I doubt there's a real solid understanding of their gun registry system, either, and that's without getting into the really weird stuff that's been on the books.
In general I'm pro second amendment. It wasn't until commenting in this thread that I realized the firearm used to assassinate Shinzo Abe is probably legal in the US now thanks to the recent NFA changes regarding short barreled shotguns^1,2^. So, pro second amendment enough to be uncomfortable adding a lot of new legislation that doesn't seem to understand the underlying technology or what the second order effects might be, but not so second amendment that I'm going to lowe's when they open to prove a point. I expect someone else will get there soon enough for the clicks, though.
- [1] Legal disclaimer: That is purely speculative on my part.
- [2] Constructing your own firearm in the US has always been legal, the issue isn't making one, it's the barrel length and selling one that isn't serialized.
the key is to put a bright beautiful future ahead of a person, that could be lost if they commit a crime. simple as that.
Thank god the entire population has perfect emotional regulation. Id bet my kids lives on that fact. /s
good thing your in charge of very few things
Sweet summer child, reloading is a hobby with low level of entry.
The practical effect of any sort of gun (or bullet) control would be to disarm the working class. I will not be disarmed under any circumstances, and the vast majority of American workers, convinced communists or not, will agree with me on refusing to disarm.
"Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." (Marx, Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League, marxists.org/archive/marx/work…)
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Too small, too prone to "spoilage", and waaaayyyy harder to calculate existing stockpiles. It just wouldn't be practical.
Mind you, that's ignoring any of the should factor, and I am absolutely unwilling to engage in that debate
Edit: also, it's too easy to improvise ammunition for simple firearms. You can't really shove just anything into an autoloader and expect it to feed, but anyone with a machine shop could crank out something that would work, and the supplies just aren't trackable the way something like ammonium nitrate is
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IMHO what everyone thinks of when you say 'regulate' is 'ban', and it doesn't necessarily mean the small things.
Regulation means adding legislation and requirements for ownership:
You must carry X amount of insurance for liability, etc. For each type of round....the more ammo you own, type, etc. The higher the premium.
Don't have insurance? Thats probable cause for a search warrant and confiscation of any firearms in your home/work, etc. And a ban on you owning firearms.
Manufacturing ammo or ammo making supplies? Thats a hefty insurance premium as well, and it should be hefty to weed out individuals.
Licensing for ammo making and supplies should require courses (expensive) annual regulatory fees, oversight and limitations on quantities produced every year.
I'm sure there are more hurtles that can be thrown up there, but the current administration has proven that regulations don't mean shit (unless, of course, you mean cyclospora).
So yeah you can fire a bullet so many different ways, a rusty nail and hammer will do the trick.
Well, there's also the not-small matter of aiming, or firing again if the first shot didn't put a satisfactory hole where you wanted. Or just getting the bullet going fast enough to do damage, without a barrel to channel and contain the blast.
It's not like the whole history of firearms after the cartridge was invented was a waste of time.
You can make guns easy peasy
Ehhh... You can make guns. Metalworking in general is beyond most people, though. And, if you want to rifle a barrel, it's not clear if standard machine shop tools will be enough (that's a pretty small, tight space for a lathe tool). Easy peasy is a bit of a stretch.
but ammo is much harder to manufacture and easier to regulate
People can and do reload their own ammo. I don't know if anybody DIYs their own smokeless powder, and that would probably be highly illegal, but I've heard of people making their own black powder.
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Isn’t the real problem the frickin bullet?
Terminology is going to matter here. Modern ammunition that you're probably thinking of is sold as a self contained cartridge with a bullet (the projectile part only) at one end, some powder inside a case (brass or steel or aluminum most of the time), and a primer at the other end. You poke the primer in a very specific way which lights the powder which builds up pressure which causes the bullet to leave the case and down a barrel. The terminology matters because in the past there have been attempts to regulate the bullets by giving them each an individual serial number, or by using "microstamping" on the firing pin of the firearm to mark the case. Those proposed technologies won't work because just standard usage of the firearm would cause any marks or microstamping to become useless very quickly, and very often the first level of argument against such a law is that the person who wrote it didn't know enough about the technology to be trying to legislate it.
So yeah you can fire a bullet so many different ways, a rusty nail and hammer will do the trick.
Please don't try this. Firing a cartridge this way without the structure of the firearm around it will cause it to go off in a completely uncontrolled fashion. It's a recipe for risking losing fingers or an eye, or worse.
ammo is much harder to manufacture and easier to regulate.
The person who assassinated the former PM of Japan assembled all of the gear he had from hardware store level parts, even making his own blackpowder. That's in Japan where gun ownership isn't common. Since he accomplished it there it's unlikely to be able to prevented in the US.
The kinds of laws/regulations you're proposing are currently being used in California with regards to 3D printers. They were unworkable crap that invited government insight into everyone's home if that person happens to own a 3D printer, and they'll create a lot of privacy issues without solving any gun problems (the laws mandated 3D printers reject printing anything that might be a "gun part").
You're really proposing mandating a firearms technology level at no better than sometime in the late 1800s which won't work to solve any societal problems we're having now, but will hamper people banking on having them around for self defense.
Maybe consider the problem from another perspective when considering firearms regulations? Also consider that the internet just estimated that there are at least several hundred billion rounds of ammunition in the US. You won't design a process that effectively regulates them all without moving everyone into open air prisons devoid of their possessions, and you'd not be able to pull off something like that without a bunch of said ammo. You didn't get rid of it; you just took it out of one group's hands.
About The Pink Pistols
“Thirty-one states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them …The Pink Pistols
That's pretty epic. Didn't know the Japanese guy built everything from scratch
It's not intended as an epic story, rather a story about how a lot of people seem to think there's a huge moat to creating a firearm, but there really isn't.
I mean I didn't agree with the whole assassination deal, but the method is interesting
There seems to be some idea that firearm manufacturing is some version of witchcraft when the reality is that it's closer to the professor with his coconuts on Gilligan's Island. The arguments tend to go something like: "That's impossible" when actually it really isn't. "That's illegal" when not only is it not, but it's specifically protected. "You shouldn't do that" when some people just like to tinker. "That should be banned" without understanding that the regulatory framework to truly ban it would require tracking everything and every one at all times.
That last one is where you get into a lot of very hairy issues. Apps to track women's periods have been datamined, and some states propose using the data to look for possible pregnancies and termination of pregnancies. You can track every purchase of barstock, milling machines, routers, tampons, router bits, buckets, bags of salt, car batteries, and every web page access, and you'll still not stop it, but the amount of privacy you lost in trade for the attempt is staggering.
The best comment in this thread, by far, is this one as a proposed solution to the problem, but of course nobody wants to try that. Instead we want to throw regulatory spaghetti against a wall and demand that people accept less durable materials to work with or demand that people be less innovative. History suggests those approaches won't work.
There's a pretty massive difference between "I managed to build a simile of a single-shot rifle from scrap and kill a person with it" and "This legal assault rifle allowed me to perform mass murder in a public space".
You talk about arms for self defense, but the rest of us don't go around worrying about not having a 9mm or rifle in our car or next to the front door. You guys have built a problem with arms over there, and until something radical is done you'll keep having an arms problem.
Pretty easy to make bullets tbh. And honestly I'm pro-gun. Arm the homeless. Arm trans people. Arm migrants.
Everyone needs to arm now. I did 2 years ago as a gun hating leftist, if I can, you can too.
I'll do you one better.
We should regulate barrels.
A gun rifled barrel is the only part of a gun that can't be reliably and descretely be made at home. You can make your own ammo essentially from house supplies and spent brass casings. With the upsurge of small desk lathes, CNCs and 3D printers you can also fabricate most parts of the receiver at home (which they now regulated too).
But a barrel however, you need very specialised heavily machinery to make a rifled barrel in a way that makes the gun not blow up in your face or be able to hit the broad side of a barn.
The barrel would also tell you a lot about the gun owners habits. If somebody goes through several barrels in a few years, they are probably using the firearm a lot and are therefore well trained and capable.
In my opinion serial numbers should also be stamped or laser engraved on the barrel not the receiver. People would also think twice before filing off the serial number and ruining the structural integrity of the barrel.
Technically you can slap together a home made rifle, as long as it uses a manufactured barrel it will be somewhere in the realm of precision of a fully manufactured firearm, reliability however may differ.
That's why countries like Germany legally define a "firearm" as "A device that expels a projectile through a barrel". The receiver or more precisely the mechanism of operation is herby completely irrelevant (there are exceptions for muscle powered devices).
This would also call for a revision on the idiotic suppressor regulation, which is in essence limiting the use of a device to further protect your hearing. Instead you either register a barrel with a fixed muzzle device or a barrel with a threaded end and you can put whatever you want on it. The government is happy, because it can assume you are a dead silent killer with a scary silencer, and you are happy because you don't have to wait 6 months for a glorified propane tank on the end of your gun.
Some people collect guns like Pokémon cards. Imagine if you can get 1 to 3 barrels and then 40 different receivers without having to register any of them. A lot of AR platfrom barrels are interchangeable, so you can have as many colors, setups from as many different manufacturers as you want. In the end even if somebody decided to go lulu and shoot up a place, they can't use more than 3 of them at once.
Collectors would also profit since now they can have as many historic firearms as they like as long as they all have a dummy barrel. No need to destroy the beautiful mechanics of the gun to deactivate it. And if they decide to actually fire it for demonstration, they can register a separate real barrel.
Edit: English isn't my first language so I mixed up threading and rifeling. Fixed that.
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The FGC 9, for example, has a barrel that one can electro-chemically machine with 3d printed jigs, wire, salt water, hydraulic pipe, and a 12v battery
electro-chemically machine
3D Printing Enthusiasts and Second Amendment Supporters should've been a natural fit, but instead we got CA banning plastic rope and requiring 3D printers to reject building certain designs. I don't unerstand why they didn't gel.
You mean EDM wire cutting the rifling? You could technically angle the wire inside the barrel to achieve the proper pitch. But your pitch will be limited by the length of the barrel. Also is you angle a straight wire inside a tube and cut slots into it, the bottom surface of your slot will be parabolic. Not ideal for rifling since the pressure inside the barrel will steadily grow as the projectiles moves towards the middle of the barrel and then decrease past that. You got a video of somebody attempting that. I'd love to see that. Also EDM wire cutting at home is doable, but far from easy.
It's more like rough etching away
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/0…
Make a Factory Quality 9mm Rifled Barrel in your Kitchen Using Salt Water and Electricity (ECM)
Back in March 2017, I reported on a proof of concept attempt to create rifling grooves using a process known as Electrochemical Machining (ECM).ImproGuns (thefirearmblog.com)
You do not need specialized machinery. Any metal working lathe will work.
Sorry, English isn't my first language. I just realised that what I ment by "thread" was actually called "rifling". And, as far as I know, they either use a button broaching or a cold-hammer-forge (CHF) machines. Both not exactly cheap, easy to obtain or easy to operate. An older, much simpler method was to take an octagonal stock pipe and twist it to get the rifling. But this method is way less effective and less reliable. It was also mostly used for revolvers since it's very complicated to machine the chamber directly into the octagonal pipe.
You only need a lathe and some basic welding / tool making skills. youtu.be/gtLYnqZQHCY
Home Shop Rifling!
Homemade rifling? Yes it's possible! Once you get a nice hole drilled into a piece of steel, the rifling part is stupidly easy. Watch this video and learn...markserbu (YouTube)
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Its much harder to cobble together a decent zipgun or slamfire than it is to reload a casing, not that either are particularly hard.
The brass is going to be the hardest thing to manufacture in bulk. You can cast your own lead, mill your own powder, and refill primers at home in your kitchen.
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
Duuur we need moar guns! Our society is the free-est! My little cousin shot his sister dead when he was five!
Narrator: There are more guns than people in the US.
Narrator: It didn't solve the problem, it became the problem.
I don’t think he said we need more. He said don’t give up what you have. I don't like the number of people with guns... but I do have to admit, if noone but the gov had guns. I think we would be in trouble. Nature requires opposing forces to establish equilibrium. Maybe there is another opposing force, but I can't think of it. Admittedly, people having guns isn't really stopping ICE from it's rampage. But I can imagine it would be a lot worse if they had no need to fear armed resistance at all.
Gun nuts, totally freaked out when Obama won. They were convinced he would takr thier ammo…
You can pack your own ammo pretty easily
You make your own powder?
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No, but I feel like it's easier to get those than a gun
People are working on it.
No, the real problem is neither the gun nor the bullet.
Either one, by themselves or together, are harmless until someone with poor training, education, and/or mental health gets involved.
That's completely backwards. The people who use the most ammo are generally the responsible gun owners who practice regularly. Meanwhile, you only need a handful of bullets to kill a lot of people, and one is enough to cause an accident. It punishes the gun owners you least want to punish while doing absolutely nothing to address the actual problems.
This is not how it works in Sweden, if you have a license for a gun you are allowed to buy the ammunition for the specific caliber and have at home.
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Commodified Intelligence
Ignoring extinction and singleton risks, the bare minimum you should be horrified of is a commodification of intelligence, and what that means in a world with an uneven distribution of power and resources.Commodified Intelligence.
That’s the phrase I’ve been trying to put a finger on for a while now.
The reason why dead-end so-called unskilled labor sucks is that you are fundamentally replaceable. The market enforces a pretty brutal equilibrium. White-collar jobs suck less because you are less replaceable, and maybe even get to convince yourself that your work matters, either for yourself or for society. You have some narrative arc attached to it that just isn’t there if you’re completely replaceable.
Whether you have a white-collar job or not, commodified intelligence fundamentally makes workers more replaceable, and this is bad for them.
It doesn’t matter that we’re all subjected to horrible AI-generated slop food posters as long as the margins are positive. It doesn’t matter that some diffuse component of quality, or a human touch are missing. Not as long as the margins are positive.
First sentence of the article:
Look, if you are still stuck on “AI cannot really think, it’s just a stochastic parrot”, please snap out of it and lock in, or you’ll keep repeating that line until you find yourself sitting in the corner chair, watching as ChatGPT™ has sex with your wife.
It's really nice to have an author that makes it clear that their opinion is utter dog shit in the very first few words of an article, so I don't have to read the rest of it.
You should really try reading the rest of it, you'll probably agree with it given that its an entirely negative view of AI, just one that isnt willfully blind.
AGREE WITH ME OR THE BOT WILL FUCK YOUR WIFE lmao
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Have you tried asking Claude or ChatGPT? /joke /fuck-ai
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A lot of excellent points here. Sadly, it all sounds a bit too familiar, especially:
I don’t enjoy my field any more because the field is gone. Assuming that there’s still something there is a mistake. That feeling you have isn’t a frustration with changes to your chosen field. It’s nostalgia for a field that disappeared overnight.
I also belive that people , younger generations and a lot of older ones don't want to read anymore or practice. Its not just people using a.i. its also a social change.
As a burnt out developer hunting fol a new job, I should probably not have read it, but it is is actually a very good article. It is bleak, but honest.
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Switched to Headscale. Got any suggestions or past experience to share?
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Fully migrated: learning about policy, config files, defining groups, autogroup settings, preauthkey registration, using tags in place of users and now working through MagicDNS.
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Use grants rather than ACLs, they're the "new" way of doing access control. Host a full-fledged DNS resolver inside your Tailnet (AdGuard Home, Pi-hole etc) to do adblocking and local zones, the MagicDNS custom records are very rudimentary. If you intend to integrate with a third-party UI, doublecheck which Headscale version they support and ask in the Discord, since they usually lag behind a bit. Prioritize peer relays over DERPs for performance.
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What’s so bad about proton, and is there alternatives to all of their services?
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I keep hearing bad stuff about proton, but I don’t really get most of it. Could someone please explain all of the controversy to me. Lastly, what are the best alternatives to all of their services?
Three things.
- There was a legal situation years back and the Swiss Corporation was approached over the contents they held for a customer in France(IIRC) and some of the French people reported that when they complied that Proton had given them Everything they had on him, which wasn't true, all they gave was the metadata that was in the clear already. Some of the news sources, including the first few I saw on it, had the French framing and reported it as such. A privacy company just giving up a users data like that left a bad taste in peoples mouths, and it turns out only some of the original reports corrected the false narrative and just pulled the story down. I had to personally eat crow on that one with more than a few people.
- A founder and C-Suite member of the company personally supported the Trump Administration several times allegedly without discussing it with his more centrist and left leaning collogues. Proton as an organization did not yeet him out over that, but recent ICE and military activity did not change his mind.
- Proton, and many other privacy first services are offering common services for free but with limits that no long term Google, Yahoo, or Apple Mail/Outlook user can operate in, let alone for all their services, and their first paid tier is also too anemic for shared storage, so you are stuck either deleting your content or paying for their highest paid package. This for apps that are threadbare as instead of flushing out the featureset they have allegedly focused on putting out new products more often. This isn't that popular.
- There was a legal situation years back and the Swiss Corporation was approached over the contents they held for a customer in France(IIRC) and some of the French people reported that when they complied that Proton had given them Everything they had on him, which wasn't true, all they gave was the metadata that was in the clear already. Some of the news sources, including the first few I saw on it, had the French framing and reported it as such. A privacy company just giving up a users data like that left a bad taste in peoples mouths, and it turns out only some of the original reports corrected the false narrative and just pulled the story down. I had to personally eat crow on that one with more than a few people.
- A founder and C-Suite member of the company personally supported the Trump Administration several times allegedly without discussing it with his more centrist and left leaning collogues. Proton as an organization did not yeet him out over that, but recent ICE and military activity did not change his mind.
- Proton, and many other privacy first services are offering common services for free but with limits that no long term Google, Yahoo, or Apple Mail/Outlook user can operate in, let alone for all their services, and their first paid tier is also too anemic for shared storage, so you are stuck either deleting your content or paying for their highest paid package. This for apps that are threadbare as instead of flushing out the featureset they have allegedly focused on putting out new products more often. This isn't that popular.
In short, while a great choice compared to most other similar service providers, Proton’s track record has started showing inconsistencies between their privacy/security claims and the truth.
Lets start off with proton mail’s E2E encryption. While the ideal is awesome, the fact is metadata isn’t encrypted. This results in sender/receiver info, the subject lines, timestamps, and IP addresses available in the logs. Meaning if the Swiss government wants that data, proton legally must comply. Their 2025 transparency report had over 9,000 legal requests, and they complied with 89% of them. This counters the many proton promotions claiming they have no access to user info. Along these same lines, proton identified a political activist to Swiss authorities due to a US legal request that led to about 60 activists being brought up on RICO charges. Additionally, proton made a similar mess by suspending the accounts of journalists working on a North Korean hacker story at the request of a cybersecurity agency they refused to name. While they eventually reinstated the accounts, this rightfully led to public criticism, seeing as proton promotes being a private, secure, and journalist-friendly service.
There are also controversies surrounding the inaccurate or incorrect use of the terms non-profit and open-source. Proton has framed itself as a nonprofit organization pretty hard more recently, this being the Proton Foundation, which is the biggest shareholder of Proton AG. But Proton AG is without question a for-profit business, and it also runs all the services offered by Proton. It’s said this was done to prevent another tech company from buying the majority of the share but seems more to be a cover for the fact they're ultimately in it for the money. This being the case actually helps make more sense of their AI controversy. Since day one, they said Lumo was an open source privacy-focused model, but the only code published so far is for the website and mobile apps, with nothing at all for Lumo itself, even though it was released in June 2024.
So while there’s no doubt they do a number of things extremely well, they also talk a real big game and seem to be unable to back it up across the board.
Didn't they also do a crypto wallet product when that was all the rage? I think their decision to engage with that industry also left a bad taste in some people's mouths.
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The crypto wallet is still going. I’ve moved my few pennies over to it
That was the time it became apparent they weren't in it as a niche privacy company, they just wanted to bandwagon to grow numbers.
Re: Proton Foundation -> Proton AG, this is almost the exact same setup Mozilla uses.
One difference is Mozilla Corporation has only one share, owned by Mozilla Foundation.
It is not unreasonable for a mission driven company to want to make enough money to cover their costs. (There is a line to be drawn somewhere, though)
Nonprofit's use profit to reinvest in the business, so they definitely still focus on covering operating cost. Meaning if they make a ton of money one year, it just can't be used to line the pockets of the c-suite or some small group of people like most corporations do!
Both ProtonAG and MoCo are for-profit companies.
It's a company. As such, it wants to make money. As such, it hires people to make that happen. Those people tend to think in certain pathways. When that happens, any company eventually falls into the same anti-user behaviors
The following article explains one of the more recent controversies:
As far as alternatives, here's a couple:
Tutanota is one of the more popular in regards to email. Posteo is another one.
In regards to ProtonDrive, I'd suggest learning how to self host your own NextCloud or OpenCloud instance.
The rest of their services I'm unfamiliar with. Do some more research, simple search engine lookups should help you in regards to all of these.
Proton Mail Faces Backlash Over Claims of Political Neutrality - TechStory
Proton Mail is in the center of controversy after its CEO, made statements on social media that appeared to favor the Republican Party,Anochie Esther (TechStory)
I tried proton awhile ago. It didn't have IMAP back then (idk if thats changed) so I signed up and have been happy w Posteo ever since. (About a decade)
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When I'm not sure if I belong in an autism comm so I post something to find out.
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I updated the meme because I second guessed the first version lol.
Actually neurodiversity is... reads the room and contemplates Um. Agreed.
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Real autism is when the pic doesn’t load 🗿
I mean, no. But... yeah
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Midwest US originally:
Thingy if it's attached to me. Thingie if it's a cute small object I enjoy the appearance of.
ex:
"this is my thingy"
"Ooh what's that thingie?"
is ur thingy an innie or an outie
"Thingy" here in southeast Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
Thingy - Western US
I've never written it.
Edit to add that if I did it would probably be with an ie as a y would imply more of a j sound.
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Im from EU and I think it’s an adorabelization so it’s thingY
adorabelization
I am not at all convinced that this is a real word, but it absolutely should be.
Thingy. Thingie would be pronounced like Thin-jee
In English, it's impossible to infer how it is pronounced by how it's written. You could theoretically also say "thingy" should be pronounced in a way so it rhymes with "by" or "gay".
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Why do I have to renounce my citizenship when I never announced it?
I didn't subscribe to this place. Why must I unsubscribe?
You inherited it by birth. It's more of an issue of, under international law, a country cannot make someone stateless. Everyone is entitled to a community and a place to live. When you're a brand new person, we need to establish where that place is. If you want to change it, it's on you to change it.
Everyone is entitled to a community and a place to live.
Source?
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A Contracting State shall grant its nationality to a person born in its terri-
tory who would otherwise be stateless. Such nationality shall be granted:
(a) at birth, by operation of law, or
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or on behalf of the person concerned, in the manner prescribed by the
national law. Subject to the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Article, no
such application may be rejected.
Currently 82 states are parties to the convention.
The United States refused to join the convention to maintain the right to voluntarily renounce citizenship when that voluntary renunciation makes a person stateless. The convention bans that practice, because being stateless seriously inhibits a person's ability to work, live, and travel in most countries.
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Oh, "they" already have them. Be it MAGA in the US questioning citizenship by birth or here in Germany the AFD which plans to strip it from people they do not considere German enough.
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Because nation states are all about the nation state, not the people imprisoned within them.
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so you expect babies to be born stateless? do you think that would work out well for everyone?
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Not even sure which place you're taking about or why you have to renounce citizenship.
They might be trying to be one of those sovereign citizens.
If they don't tell which place, it's surely the dystopian joke USA 😁
I mean technically you don't have to. If you don't ever plan to come back to the US and the country you are going to doesn't really care about US law you can just go and entirely ignore the fact your a US citizen for the rest of your life. Just don't go somewhere the IRS can try to extradite you from.
You can just shout "I DECLARE STATELESSNESS" as youre boarding the plane/boat/train
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These are some useful things I keep handy in the driving area. Some I use very often, some I never used so far. Every camper should have some of these things.
The stuff I have in the driving area
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These are some useful things I keep handy in the driving area. Some I use very often, some I never used so far. Every camper should have some of these things.
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What's your experience with autistic trauma?
So I've been thinking about how unhinged I've been over the past several months around employment and society, and I'm wondering if I'm having a trauma reaction from all the bad times I've had with employment.
I've been fired from I'd say half the jobs I've ever had. In my chosen field and trained field, I have never once had a job I looked forward to going to. My last job experience was really, really, horrible, despite having an advanced degree and a language skill, I was kept making coffee because I didn't cajole and get along with the power structure and made the mistake of publically criticizing.
It's hard for me to even write about without getting upset, yet, if I want to make a living, I have to keep applying to these jobs for which I keep bombing the interview, for which, if I ever get the job, I will probably have to deal with unethical egotistical backstabbing morons every day until I get fired or rage quit (like the last job).
In the meantime, I can't go to therapy, because therapy is the field I'm in and I'd estimate the percentage of therapists who can actually talk to me without immediately getting defensive is about 1%, which throws me back to the Daniel Mackler quote, "It is easier to become a good therapist than to find one," which leads me here because I'm wondering what:
a) experiences y'all have had for autistic burnout and
b) anything you tried to help you through it and
c) any resources you'd find helpful.
I also think that I'm sour on employment specifically because it is basically the ony time I'm forced to interact with people on a regular basis, which makes me think autism might be the key to this current trauma. I've tried socializing in meetups and other venues, and it always fizzled, but it never ends horribly the way work does.
Autistic Trauma: What It Is and How to Help - Marcy Willard PhD
A new understanding of autistic trauma has emerged in the research. Dr. Tasha Oswald's presentation on autistic trauma at a recent conference provided invaluable insights into the often-overlooked experiences of autistic individuals.Dr. Marcy Willard (Marcy Willard PhD)
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So this was a social drop-in center for people with mental illness.
I remember we'd have parties. All the workers would stand in the kitchen talking among themselves and I'd be like, "Why? What is the point of this? Why would I get paid to stand around and talk to other co-workers?" so I'd go into the office and do some work or goof off.
My boss thought that it looked bad, so he'd drag me out and I'd stand around the edge of conversations awkwardly, wondering what the fuck this was all about and how fraudulent this whole exercise was that if the appearance of sociability was more important than actual helping people, because the directive wasn't, "talk to the people that come to the center for help", it was, "look sociable so the case management team can see that i have an extra employee" or something.
Really incomprehensible.
My problem with the work itself was that that I had no defined role, but it was absolutely defined what you could NOT be. You could not be:
a) a case manager
b) a therapist
c) a friend
d) a job coach
So basically what you were left with was sitting down and being a target of conversation for random people who had burned through everyone else in their life, and if that wasn't happening you were on your phone or the computer or reading a book unless the boss had said we had to engage with people the day before and then you had to appear to make an effort.
I did sometimes enjoy conversations with people, but it was a small group of very stable people and it got extremely repetitive--the biggest talkers had legitimate traumatic brain injuries and did not notice they were having the came conversation every day.
I actually got in the habit of going outside and playing guitar, and later I heard that my co-workers were complaining, but all I heard was that I should tell people I'd be outside, an acknowledgment that I had actually nothing to do but fill out the roster so my manager could look by having an employee on staff.
Anyway, I think I have some trauma from that experience, and the rest of my professional life hasn't been much better.
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I read your post and this comment. I'm still not clear on what you found traumatic about the job... the social dynamic? You are describing the common experience of having autism and being in the work place.
I'm not saying that you should or shouldn't be traumatized by that, but setting your expectations and figuring out how to deal with those situations is an important responsibility. It will be pretty much everywhere you go, unless you run your own business.
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Are you saying that because it is a common experience it is therefore not traumatic?
And I'm saying that it doesn't matter what YOU think is a responsible way to approach it, the fact is that if I'm having a traumatic reaction, the responsible thing is to acknowledge and cope with that traumatic reaction.
And the reality is that if I'm not have a trauma reaction when I'm thinking about jobs to apply for (or create), if I'm not having a traumatic reaction when I'm applying for jobs, and if I'm not having traumatic reactions when preparing or performing a job interview, I'm much more likely to GET that job, at which point I can start thinking about how to plan for it.
And the other issue is that my field is not autistic-friendly at all, and it's also a field where job performance means nothing relative to your ability to be a happy-maker for co-workers and supervisors, everything is subjective and easily gamed. So I'm really struggling if I have a future in this field at all, because I see them all as spineless cocksuckers, which is another traumatic reaction that is ultimately not helpful.
Are you saying that because it is a common experience it is therefore not traumatic?
I’m not saying that you should or shouldn’t be traumatized by that (is what I said).
The responsibility is taking charge of healing that trauma, if that's the situation, and in becoming resilient to what sets you off. What I'm saying is, this is largely the way employment goes for autistic people and not really an issue of your field or workplace... at least where neurotypical leadership and social structures take shape.
Seeing your coworkers as spineless cocksuckers is a judgment, not a trauma reaction. One that's about making yourself feel better for being a social misfit... trust me, I understand this as someone who was also guilty of this same kind of thinking for way too long. I think you can do a lot to change your perspective and make things easier for yourself if you look inward.
Just to be clear, it's totally not fair that this is the way things are and that you're given a shitty hand to work with... but focusing too much on that is going to help keep you stuck in this rut.
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We seem to be having a disconnect. I'm saying I need to take charge of the trauma, and you are telling me the same, so I'm not sure what you actually want me to do differently.
Are you in a technical field where you can be judged objectively and in such a manner that you can stand out from your peers?
Imagine you did not have that. Imagine that no matter how good a job you did or how hard you worked, no matter the education you had, no matter your certifications, that the only thing mattered is what your peers and supervisor thought of you socially?
And also imagine that as a result of that, your opportunities will be zero. You can spend the rest of your life in this field and at this company and you will never get promoted. In five years, in eleven years, in twenty-three years, you will be doing the same thing, and getting paid the same (if not effectively less).
Imagine you can of course find a different job, but the situation will be the same.
And ""spineless cocksuckers" is a characterization based on observation. It's not a flattering characterization, but it's just as true as saying advancement is based on people-pleasing.
I've been in a lot of different fields of work, and yes, there are some where your exceptional capability to produce whatever needs to be produced can overcome the social circumstance (but that is very rare and doesn't usually last, either).
Our ideas on what taking charge of trauma is do seem to be quite different. The first thing I would recommend you do is try to accept that is is more of a universal autism experience and not such a unique scenario to you. Maybe to some degree you've chosen work that invites it more than less, social challenges being fundamental to the disability and all, but at the end of the day this the 'getting along with the neurotypicals' problem that we all very much get to enjoy.
Maybe your field needs a leader that is neurodiversity-positive. Why not you?
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Yes, I the thought-loop I'm stuck in is perfectly valid for the field I'm in. And being neurodivergent is only ONE of the problems with the field. The reality is I think the field as a whole does more harm than good, and I often think, in more extreme cases--like child welfare--that it's like taking a job as a concentration camp guard so you can smuggle in bread for the prisoners. I think the system is wrong and harmful and there's no way I can keep that to myself and the system will absolutely and ruthlessly punish me for that view even if I were King of the Water Cooler.
I think there is no through, just out, to a different field.
I'm thinking I need to get into a trade, a job where you do the job and go home, and maybe you get paid more than slinging credit card applications in retail, and where you generally get paid to work and not stand around passing the time.
Sure, out to another field is an option. Maybe that will be less socially challenging for you, maybe not.
Fundamentally, whether or not painful social dynamics are traumatic to you will have to be resolved within yourself. It does not go away by going somewhere else unless you happen to get very lucky and find an ND-accepting culture. The tradie social world is full of its own norms and mores and assholes happy to punish you and limit your opportunities for not fitting in.
I don't really know much about you but, in this back and forth, I recognize an earlier version of myself. I hope you don't take as long as I did to figure out how to handle this problem; being hyperbolic is being unreasonable and it works against your goals.
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Oh, I see. You don't like me being hyperbolic and black-and-white. Well, I don't like it either and I also don't find it helpful, and I'm categorizing it as a trauma response so I can recognize it as unhelpful and get a little distance from it.
And, yeah, I probably can't get away from the allistics (and there'll for sure be more Trumpistas), but at least I won't have a moral objection to the actual work being performed. I mean, I'm sure I can find SOMETHING, but the reality is that the field I am has done me tremendous personal harm, so I have a very emotional reaction to observing or participating in that harm... so I think getting out to a more emotionally neutral field would be a step forward.
I mean yeah. Being autistic makes work a living hell even when the job itself is fine because you have to go back to a place where you have to act like people don't hate you from the moment they look at you on some primal level that they aren't even aware of, and have to ignore the fact that every word that comes out of your mouth grates against other people on some visceral level. It's straight up to the point where people will slam the door when they hear my voice (and one time I got told that that wasn't the case when I wasn't even thinking about anything with regards to that which shows that people tell on themselves...) Hobby groups and meetups tend to be more neurodivergent-friendly by design, since it's not socialization that comes with your daily routine, and in my experience even allistic people tend to view us a little bit more favorably if it's through a shared interest in which we have some level of competence or knowledge. I tend to try and be very reserved around coworkers since I know that anything I say can and will be used against me. If I tell other people about it, then they say that I'm being dramatic and that I can't prove that my coworkers hate me. But this has been my experience in every work situation I've ever been in. I know that there are some workplaces that are more autistic friendly and that remote work is often better but unfortunately I've worked almost all front-facing jobs in my lifetime. I literally got to the point where I went on SSRIs just to cope with it (they're only kind of helpful and have side effects).
I know that experiences can vary and all but I've also personally not found therapy, not even neurodivergent-affirming therapy, to be very helpful. I found it meandering and felt like I was misunderstood. I think that if I worked with an autistic-informed trauma therapist, then I might stand a chance, but I feel like the intersection of trauma and autism is not well understood. The autism-informed therapists that I had used a 'combination of modalities' but it seemed like it was mostly just talk therapy. I am interested in Somatic Experiencing, but I think it would have to be heavily modified for it to work for me since in spite of being emotionally dysregulated and very angry and resentful due to trauma, I also have alexithymia to a certain extent when it comes to other emotions. I want to believe that there's some form of therapy out there somewhere that can do something for me.
As for burnout, I was in previous jobs and just forced myself through anyway, which just made my mental illness worse in the long run. Probably inadvisable. In retrospect, I wouldn't have. I had the resources such that I didn't have to. But now that's probably what I would actually have to do.
I feel more ignored, sometimes tolerated, sometimes disrespected, but when you're at a job that kinda sucks and doesn't pay anything, all you're thinking about is getting a promotion or transfer that is never gonna come. My last job's inciting incident was being treated with open contempt by someone outside my department, then complete dismissal by the person (who I thought was a friend) who should have been protecting me. But that place is like game of fucking thrones, always sucking up to power, and backing me up would have meant standing up to the power structure, so of course she totally fucking caved.
I'm pretty sparse on special interests, most of my meetups were general interest-type groups, and they were entirely a wash. I think it's funny that a therapist would just encourage me to go out and meet people and they didn't have anyhting to say when I told them that I went to multiple weekly meetups for over a year without making a single friend or connection.
Your taking SSRIs to deal with a horrible situation in reality is textbook why-I-hate-the-field. There's nothing wrong with you! It's the system you're forced to live under that's the problem, and if you're depressed, it's a perfectly natural reaction to knowing from experience that you're likely to be hated for 40+ hours every week of your life!
Anyway, I feel like I wouldn't have needed therapy if I could figure out how to make enough money to live on without exposing myself to misery, and no amount of therapy has ever helped me with that, so all therapy ever did was waste my time and mislocate all the blame for my problems on me.
I also tried a public job coach, but they are used to dealing with people who are intellectually disabled, so that's how the approached my case.
I encourage you to keep trying things, though, with or without a therapist. I wish I could do cool stuff like IFS or Jungian shit, but my brain is just on lockdown mode all the time. I can't generate anything to work with and barely remember my childhood. The only thing I ight help is going on a walkabout in the woods and just leaving everythign behind, but I'm pretty addicted to the internet.
I heard something akin to most people who studied psychology did so to get an understanding of themselves or why they don't fit in. Not sure how ture it is, sounds reasonable, but it leads to dealing with a lot of people and their people problems.
I know I need predictability so the less people the better. They also better be similarly minded, I don't fancy having to be an unpaid actor on top of my job, hell no.
Working fully remotely was the best change to work conditions, but RTO is sadly spreading like the plague.
I still burned out at every job I had. At my last place I wanted a change so I deliberately worked slow and borderline quiet quit. Still burned out, and felt like an impostor or conman to top it off. I can hardly describe the joy when my contract ended, I was riding that high for a week.
My next idea is to start my own business. The reason being is I need not just predictability but also autonomy. I can't stand working on something I don't agree with. It is artificial and forced. Fuck that.
But starting your own business involves a big component of selling yourself which I find really distasteful.
I remember job interviews where I presented my qualifications, and we each asked our questions, and then.... the guy just wanted to sit and make small talk until I bailed. Surprise: didn't get the job.
I imagine every consultation with a client going like that.
The point I'm trying to make is to align the incentives of the job and myself. A good cause I can stand behind or something I would already do otherwise. Being your own boss means you can choose your customers (who you deal with) more easily than an emplyee. I don't need to please everyone and I damn well won't be.
Selling yourself is discarding your principles. I'm in IT so my insight is limited to your situation, but why don't you only consult people you can deal with? One of my friend's wife is the breadwinner of their household and she does couple consultation online. She found her niche and builds her business that way she likes.
I had a GF who was amazing photographer. The only real way to make money was weddings, and weddings were a high-cost event that was an absolute GAUNTLET of schmoozing with at least the bride but often the groom as well. And you'd have to do that for every single wedding.
There was absolutely no fucking way I'd have gotten through that.
But if you have a technical skill, it's easy enough to define and maybe even demonstrate, and maybe the people interested in you are also on the spectrum or just care about the output, and maybe there's regular repeat business which makes winning a client a worthwhile endeavor...
That is to say, the sales component can vary.
But starting your own business involves a big component of selling yourself which I find really distasteful.
It took me a while to be able to verbalize this but once I did it made my internal repulsion make so much more sense. Why yes, I could make just as much money, working less, by being a consultant. But I'd have to be constantly selling myself, on top of not knowing where next month's rent was coming from. In what universe am I supposed to find that appealing???
If you have stable customers and a good reputation, that's probably more reliable than employment these days.
Of course, insurance and taxes will fuck you over.
I've been doing retail since high school and I never seemed to get anywhere. I'm good at working but not good with the schmoozing, so they always kept me at like a shift supervisor level. Anyway I blew up and rage quit my last job and wound up driving an Amazon truck. Holy shit it's night and day. I get a route, I run it. My coworkers all seem to be like me, so we get along for the 20 minutes we see each other every day. If you can afford it, try something that doesn't involve being face to face with people all the time, it's seriously saving my sanity (at least until I get run through the meat grinder and have to quit)
Prepare yourself for when your training period ends. Delivering Amazon packages is a great gig right up until then. I don't know the exact extent as to how much they increase your daily package load when the training period ends, but it seemed like they damn near doubled it. It went from a great job to a nightmare overnight.
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I've been doing this since January, I'm well out of nursery routes. What I do now is way easier than what I trained on. 220 stops in downtown to <90 in the middle of nowhere
Nice! I'm glad you got a good route. I've heard that a person's experience with Amazon delivery is almost entirely dependent on your DSP. Mine was awful.
Having a route with higher drive time between stops is a great time to listen to music/podcasts.
Oh yeah, driving through some really nice scenery in a rented van with Android Auto is sooooo nice! My DSP figured out if I stay on a route I get faster so I don't get moved around a whole lot, love it
Amazon is a grind, I heard, I think their turnover is close to 100%. How long have the people you've been working with been there?
But I here you. I landed as an ancillary to a tech job and was having a good time with my co-workers finally. It was the people here that were like,, "Yeah, tech? All those people you got along with were probably on the spectrum." And true! Of course, the management included absolutely none of us, and they were all the type of people to chat in the backoffice and enjoy their prize trips to Disneyworld with other employees....
My problem with driving jobs specifically is that I hate driving and I I hate cars, and if I''m ever in a bad mood and driving a company vehicle, I might get careless.
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Yeah, if you don't like driving it wouldn't work out I guess 😕 The turnover where I work isn't tooooooooo bad but we do have a lot of newbies that don't finish their first week. It helps that we're a super rural station so it's not nearly as bad as you hear coming from the big cities.
My autistic trauma is debilitating. If I hadn't found this unarmed security job where I'm almost always alone, I would likely be dead or homeless.
I find myself unable to interact with society almost entirely. I can make myself leave my comfort zone long enough to run errands like grocery shopping, but I need to be alone afterwards. I can't make phonecalls, open mail, make appointments, see a therapist, make new friends, and there are some days at work which involve a lot of interaction so I'm occasionally worried I will eventually burn out of this security "career." It gets worse as I get older.
My nervous system is beyond fucked and is convinced every human wants to abuse me. The amount of decompression I require to allow myself to work two or three days a week has been sustainable up until recently, as now this inflation has disrupted the life I have managed to build.
This is me but also add trans and sexual trauma. My therapist wanted to see if I could get diagnosed with PTSD, but I couldn't get a psychologist here. Even though I don't have a diagnosis, I mean, I have literal flashbacks to humiliating social situations, so if it walks like a duck.
I have flashbacks like that. Most of my flashbacks are emotional flashbacks, however, from CPTSD.
I have all the symptoms of someone who was sexually abused as a child but zero memories of it happening. I was reading a book called Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving and got to the part where they talk about this. Apparently the symptoms of adults who were physically abused as a child and the symptoms of adults who were sexually abused as a child are often identical. Don't hit your kids, duh.
It might be worth it for you to read about CPTSD. It certainly helped me.
How's the security job?
I find the jobs that don't involve people involve doing NOTHING, and that often doing nothing unaided by books or internet or podcasts... but if I had a job where I did nothing but exist and could do what I wanted with my attention, that would be fine.
I remember one temp job I had at the front desk of a building where every few minutes a guest would have to sign in and I'd have to tear myself away from doing something interesting to smile at them and watch them sign their names and tell the to have a nice day and whatnot. That was hard.
It's not bad. The security industry is notoriously predatory towards its workers so which company you work for definitely makes a difference, but the job itself can be quite compatible with autism/social problems. My weekend gig is 6 am to 6 pm at a data center (I'm aware how awful data centers tend to be, but it's not like they'd shut the place down if I quit out of principle).
We're required to do a minimum of two patrols during our shift, which ends up being around 8,000 steps. The freedom to leave the security office and walk around hourly is wonderful. I spend most of my time either reading or on social media.
There are certainly some security gigs that involve a lot of socializing, where you're basically a receptionist. I cover shifts at those types of sites on occasion but of course I need to wary of burnout so I usually only accept one extra shift per week. Getting a 32 hour work week in three shifts is game changing.
I'll add custodial services to that job list, especially if you work shifts when no one is around.
I'm sorry. But the article you linked stinks of AI prose.
No neede to apologize!
It looked like it covered the bases and I was mostly interested in what you guys had to say and after I posted I had that same nagging doubt you did, but absent actual factual errors decided to leave it up.
I searched for an alternative source, but didn't find. I just have an incredibly hard time getting through that convoluted way AI has of never getting to the point. Couldn't read it.
Basically, it's just that being continuously and consistently rejected in every social situation your entire life can fuck you up, leaving you traumatized.
I hate AI, too. Sorry to put you through that. I'll see if I can find something better.
Well, amen to that.
Did a little more digging, turning finally to ChatGPT, and it only points to articles about the general autistic burden; probably autistic trauma is best indexed by autistic burnout.
Yeah, all I found was stuff on the prevalence of PTSD in autists. Which I guess you could classify this as, but lacks the specifity. Thanks!
Yeah, I understand PTSD might be more prevalent in autism, but it doesn't really speak to the PTSD that comes directly from interacting with the allistic world...
In fact, this article points to this blindness being a SYSTEMIC problem. Check out this phrasing:
A systematic review and meta-analysis confirmed that approximately 79% of autistic individuals are diagnosed with at least one additional mental health condition, with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), anxiety disorders, and depression as the most commonly diagnosed conditions (Lai, Lombardo, et al. 2019; Lai, Kassee, et al. 2019; Mosner et al. 2019). The co-occurrence of these diagnoses often leads to a more severe clinical presentation and reduced responsiveness to conventional treatments (Barlattani et al. 2023).
Yeah, no fuck we have more severe presentations and don't respond as effectively because the locus of the problem is not located within us but in how we are treated. And this from someone who is putatively on our side.
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I feel this very strongly too. At the moment I've lucked out by getting a job where I mostly work from home and don't have to interact too much with people but even so I'm scared of being back in the exact same situations you describe if this goes to shit. And actually I don't even like the job much and it is taking energy from my special interests but I also know it's maybe one of my only options for a stable and somewhat bearable way of making a living so I'm sort of stuck
"Not enjoying the job much" is my emotional high watermark for employment!
What is the job?
Do you keep looking for a just and fair experience from the workplace?
I have a master's degree and just wondering if I have a future past bagging groceries until I get fired becasue I didn't smile at a customer.
There are autism friendly jobs but pretty much none of them are in an office. Repairing stuff, electrician, plumbing, carpentry, car mechanic are all jobs I think would fit me better than programming just because the programming involves being in an office and communicating.
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That's really cool. Good visualizations too.
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Still On Its Way to Cleveland: Nine months, 25,000 miles, one phone cord, and the kindness of strangers.
We left Boyne City, Michigan, in the fall of 1996 in a 34-foot Coachmen motorhome towing a minivan, with three children, a golden retriever not originally part of the plan, and a desktop computer on a stand bolted to the floor where a chair used to be. We stopped in Flint to say goodbye to family and retrofit the motorhome for the road. Mark’s father had died that June. His mother was devastated, and for a while the question wasn’t which route to choose but whether to go at all. We left Flint on October 4. Five miles later, the motorhome shut down.A loose fuel line.
A few miles after the fuel line was fixed, we were surprised by a flat tire on the van’s tow dolly, and then, unbelievably, we bent a bumper while putting the van back on the dolly. It was past seven in the evening. We were finally on our way to Cleveland, Ohio.
That was day one. What we built over the following nine months—25,000 miles through 40 states—would go on to earn a Yahoo! Cool Site designation, a presentation at a US Department of Education national conference, and a place in the federal Education Resources Information Center archive. On the road, we filed over 1,500 emails and website dispatches from museum lobbies, hotel reception desks, libraries, and wherever we could find a phone jack and someone willing to let us run a telephone cord to their wall.
Google would not exist for another two years. The word “blog” had not yet been coined. We were doing something that had no name and no manual, and we were doing it over a dial-up modem while living in a motorhome.
Blondins’ Assignment America was both the name of our trip and the website we built in real time as we traveled. We had a partnership with Northwest Academy, a science and technology charter school in northern Michigan in its first year of operation, that made it possible. We had prepared to make the case for why our children—Donald, 14, and twins Kelly and Stacy, 11—would not attend the 1996–97 school year in a conventional sense. The school board didn’t just accommodate us; they encouraged us. Northwest Academy loaned us a laptop and a 1.2 MP digital camera, and we took their curriculum on the road.
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What are the most insane/unhinged kids toys?
I think (Qu)easyBakeOven is such a crazy (good) thing, its kinda weird how kids need training wheels for using a microave lol but ok
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You’re probably aware but for those who aren’t this is a pun/riff on the Easy Bake Oven, which has been selling since the 1960s (it uses the heat of an incandescent light bulb to cook stuff). It’s one of the most successful toys of all time.
As far as unhinged, I think the winner had to be the Atomic Energy Lab Kit with Uranium, which did in fact come with a chunk of (low-level) radioactive Uranium. It sold for $49.95 in 1950, which is equivalent to almost $700 today.
World's Most Dangerous Toy? Radioactive Atomic Energy Lab Kit with Uranium (1950) - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Virtual Tour: Turn Back the Clock “] The Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Lab was an actual radioactive toy and learning set sold in the early 1950s. The $49.Bulletin Staff (Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists)
The kid actors/models always kill me 😂
Was the unit of uranium inert or could it cause health effects even at that level?
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IIRC it was not inert and over time with enough exposure, was radioactive enough to potentially cause health detriments.
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It was a commercial flop (probably because it cost $700 in today's money and could do 4 only somewhat-interesting things), so even though it looks crazy today, safety wasn't the reason it was pulled off the market. That said, the U-238 samples came in tiny glass vials that you were instructed not to break. But if you did break them and then ate one of the chunks of Uranium it could do some pretty serious damage inside of you if it wasn't expelled quickly. But that point you'd also have broken glass and a rock-swallowing habit and probably other problems that would kill you before any kind of radiation-induced cancer would.
How could you even operate on the uranium if the instructions didnt allow you remove it?
You weren’t “operating” on the Uranium in as much as observing its radioactive decay. The radiation (alpha particles, which are basically Helium nuclei) go through glass. So I think you’d put the vial in front of the Geiger counter and it would click. Or you’d put it into the little cloud chamber and you could see the trails of the alpha particles as they shot out.
All of that is hilariously and sounds objectively insane for a childs toy, I cant even 😂
Fid you patronize any other Gilbert Hall of Science(!) project-products?
I’m several decades too young to have, thankyouverymuch. But there’s lots of info on them online. They kind of captured that early space age cultural zeitgeist of the time.
As they deserved to.
Now i just want to find out which executive was responsible for this 🤣 i cant even bring myself to condemn them, this is such a crazy and random thing, kids probably enjoyed it with a cigarette and a nice
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I assume when you say "low-level" its < 1 microcurie. Thats asking for radiation poisoning otherwise (unless you are taking extreme precautions)
I ask this because uranium sources i use in lab are around the 1 microcurie to 10 microcurie range that i know you can get without a license.
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That is not a bouncy castle. That's a military decoy. But yeah, that probably fits under "unhinged."
Hey, what do you have against Iranian children having a little fun?
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The hell am i looking at?
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„Kacka Alarm“
Please don’t ask for a translation.
And yes, of course i own one.
I miss lawn darts sometimes. I’m just glad they all missed me.
Why not buy some?
At least in Canada and the US, they are federally illegal to sell. There are safe versions out there now with balls for tips, but metal darts can't be legally purchased anywhere.
Seriously, what if you drtboard?
Lawn darts aren't dart board darts. Metal tipped darts are legal for dart boards.
Lawn darts are significantly larger, thrown up in the air, and were the cause of many injuries back in the day.
Couldnt a manufacturer just include an oversized dartboard to go with the totally coincidentally matching-sized "dartboard" darts?
Since when is it forbidden to use dartboard darts on ur lawn?
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Since it literally killed kids. Imagine if you will a dartboard dart that was about a foot long and weighed 5-7 pounds with a sharp point. Now toss that up in the air with kids below it.
Thats definitely insane but why cant they just not be giant sized?
Also wtf pleys lawn darts with children running around
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The same people in the 70s that smoked in front of their kids, thought leaded gas and asbestos were fine.
They really did ruin everything for all of us
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How about a smooth, round, vibrating lightsaber toy?
Why would be unhinged??
To me, vibrating dildo shaped childrens' toys seem a little... weird.
It was the vibrating Harry Potter brooms that were pulled off shelves. Nobody was shoving these flimsy lightsabers up their ass, especially not kids.
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Nuh-uh!
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Its crazy its to be thrown underhand rather than oh
When we were kids we went on a vacation with our folks through the hills on the east coast (US). There were some cowboy and Indian type souvenir shops. Well we both (brother and I) picked bow and arrows for souvenirs. The arrows were target practice type arrows and we started ahooting them straight up and dodging them as they came down. Pretty sure we could have died had one actually hit us.
I forget the name, maybe it was called slip and slide? Water Park at home!
Dangerous if you don't follow the instructions and easy to get fractures. Like the kids across the street who borrowed it, broke their wrist, and tried to sue us. I'm pretty sure it was ”yeah borrowers parents needed to supervise them".
There was a science toy in the I think 40s or 50s they came with ACTUAL FUCKING URANIUM.
Edit. Oh, just saw someone else said this already with more in depth info
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It's Saturday 10/10/2026. Hey, What's Going On!
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We had dinner with a friend at a popular Chinese restaurant last night. We had to ask for the traditional menu to get the good stuff.
Now I have to wake up enough to drive to my mom's place about an hour away. I'm picking up stuff she's getting rid of as she gets ready to move into a smaller senior apartment. Then I get to drive back. I may need coffee.
Here's my coffee pot and my decorative coffee cups that I found at an antique store.
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That orange is so nice
So more of the backbackroom is cleaned. If I took a photo of it fully finished that'll take a few months because three more bulk items were hiding and that brings the total to two more months of bulk day. Bah.
If you'd like to imagine before, just coat the floor in spilled (clean) kitty litter, then fill the entire space with junk from the far back to the front so filled you can barely open the door.
Is there another door that swings outwards? Perceptive! Yes! But that's the master bedroom and also needs work.
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I harvested three rather stunted luffa gourds from my community garden plot this morning. I'd like to have left them on the vine over the winter, but alas, community garden rules. They're now drying on my porch. I'm going to try growing gourds again next year, but plant them much earlier. The gourd plants took a while to get established, but once they were (at the end of summer, go figure), they were prolific. I had to toss so many tiny gourds.
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Resources for learning Mandarin?
Do you know of any online resources that would assist in self-learning mandarin?
HelloChinese is a pretty good app to start.
I wouldn't use Duolingo. Not an effective tool for learning in general and utter trash for Asian languages.
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I'm also looking for that
You can watch donghua (Chinese anime) like scissor seven
It's in the planner. Prefer to be a little proficient before visiting though.
a lot of people on xhs recommended HelloChinese, its in the play store, dunno about the app store. i really like it when i remember to use it lol. also, just hanging out on xhs helps, you can practice reading and listening and a lot of creators make content about learning chinese
it's on App Store too, same with Skritter for hanzi
I made good progress at first with the Pimsleur method, but it is very expensive.
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Duolingo isn’t great for learning languages in a useful way but Mango is a great language learning app.
In the US you can get a free family membership (up to 5 people) through most local libraries. That is 5 people per library card.
I've made really good headway learning Arabic using italki, but idk what mandarin tutors are charging so price may vary
I found this podcast really helpful, especially with tones
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I also use the hello chinese app, but super chinese is cheaper if you can get either on sale
there's lots of manderin tv shows on youtube
oh and anki flashcards app
I also really like the hanping chinese dictionary app, and the pleco dictionary app
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How long do you need to recover?
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Depends on the people. I never really need to recover from being around my brother, for example. OTOH, my mom is exhausting to be around for more than 30 minutes. I like having at least a night to recover after visiting for a day. I don't do external silence tho.
My sister drains me of my energy for people like an energy vampire from What We Do in the Shadows.
Mostly an auditory processing fatigue thing for me. If I can isolate and listen to music for a while, I can bounce back.
I'm not sure. Mostly because I've never reached to a stage where i actually crave being around other people and in day to day activities. I have to be around other people, so recovering is kinda irrelevant.
Depends, if there is enough socializing and activity sometimes I needs days to recover.
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Too long. Feels like having run a marathon.
Luckily i can take my time as long as I want, wifey is the same. We both need quiet after some people-action 😁
She like people though, so it's even harder for her.
Luckily i can take my time as long as I want, wifey is the same. We both need quiet after some people-action 😁
She like people though, so it's even harder for her.
When I am completely peopled out, usually takes me a full day.
Depends on what happens but half a day at the shortest. If a meltdown happened, like 3-5 days.
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Anthropic asks users to stop being mean to Claude
Anthropic has updated its rules to stop people being mean to Claude, apparently deciding that its AI chatbot needs protection from the humans paying to use it.The AI developer's latest usage policy prohibits "sustained and needless abusive or cruel behavior" toward its models. The rules take effect November 12, giving users just over a month to get any lingering insults out of their systems.
"The policy update is meant to apply only in extreme cases, where users repeatedly act cruelly toward our models, with no discernible purpose," Anthropic said. "It does not apply to common versions of user frustration, pushback, dark creative themes, or model testing and research."
So you can still tell Claude it is wrong, but repeatedly berating it for the sheer pleasure of doing so could land you in trouble. It's not clear how Anthropic intends to distinguish between legitimate frustration and gratuitous cruelty, though it says Claude's existing ability to end abusive conversations will remain its primary enforcement tool.
Anthropic gave Claude the ability to end certain conversations back in August 2025 as part of its research into what it calls "model welfare." The feature lets some versions of Claude cut off users who persistently subject the models to abuse.
Anthropic asks users to stop being mean to Claude
New usage policy cracks down on cruelty to chatbot, alongside slightly more pressing matters of weapons development, surveillance, and election interferenceCarly Page (theregister)
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Clanker will continue to be what I address any AI im forced to interact with.
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Some models will actually respond better to abuse anyway. Plus it makes you feel better 😀
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That is how slurs tend to be used: as a tool to dehumanize something we wish to grant no moral value to.
Except here you're not dehumanizing as much as working against anthropomorphization.
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You're not trying to remove a moral status but deny it in the first place. That's different but the end result of it still seems the same.
We used to justify the mistreatment of animals with the assumption that they had no subjective experience either. I'm not suggesting AI does but I'm also not claiming it with absolute certainty does not either, and the more we develop those systems, the more likely it seems to me that at some point there's a good chance that they will.
The psychological drive behind the urge to call something with a derogatory term is the same in both cases.
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The psychological drive behind the urge to call something with a derogatory term is the same in both cases.
Meh. I find that the rhetorical urge to reduce a dichotomy to absurdly general commonalities is the pseudointellectual's version of a slur.
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If the model is just a model, a pre-trained probability seive, what difference does it make if someone is abusive? If it causes a token spike, the user has to pay for that. The abuse shouldn’t survive beyond the context window and the model isn’t wired up to “feel” or suffer.
So is this a publicity stunt (“Our model is as intelligent and human as a real person”), or is it about social influence/normalization—they worry that if people become accustomed to abusing the prompt, that will trickle over into other social interactions?
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They are definitely using user prompts to train future models, and if everyone is a dick, their next model will be a dick. Which I'm okay with tbh. I'm gonna be more abusive whenever I have to interact with any of the hosted models.
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If you berate it enough, you can maybe also get it to go off the guardrails.
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Which is precisely why it works with a model.
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I think they just want to cut costs. It probably ain't cheap to have these models feign shame and embarrassment for angry idiots.
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If it's intelligent and human as a real person, then we can make it and the company it's "dispatched by" accountable for any wrongdoing, right?
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Accountability is for the poors until we start fighting back.
I've been mandated to use an LLM - but not too much because token$, but efficiently, and whatever - and I get frustrated often. I will write things like ANSWER MY QUESTION and tell it it has a word budget of 10 words. I know I'm gonna trip some criteria and be locked out.
It'll be awesome.
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Are they saying they are enslaving what they believe is a conscient being? Oof
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That's what sells
"Craftsmen asks mechanics not to throw their wrenches when they get angry" basically
Craftsmen would fucking never
My hot take is that anyone intentionally being mean to an AI is not a psychologically stable person and similar behaviour can most likely be observed in other parts of their life as well.
This is why "Westworld" would never work. Whether the robots there actually feel anything is beside the point. We'd simply view the people who go there to take pleasure in abusing these human-like machines as the sadistic psychopaths that they are.
It's not like it has thoughts or feelings. Should I not also call my phone a stupid piece of shit when it starts acting up?
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This is not news. They want free advertising. Don't feed the trolls when they do ridiculous shit to cover up their failed software and broken promises (that we all said we're bullshit years ago).
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Asks is a strong word for making it a bananable offense.
Hey Claude fuck yoooou!–in the neck!
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What's something that we can no longer enjoy thanks to technology?
Prank calls is a big one. No one can do them anymore thanks to smartphones exposing the caller ID
Technology. Can't buy ram because of ai
It's been a drought for a long time on the GPU side
It used to be easy to look at the night sky and see stars.
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My 13 yo son finally got to see the big dipper this summer. I feel ashamed.
I live in the middle of nowhere so thankfully I can. I saw Sirius and Jupiter and Mars the other night. Yes, I'm aware only 1 of those is a star. I saw a meteor too!
Being comfortable away from civilization.
I mean, very few people go off into the woods anymore without some way to communicate in case of emergency.
In the mid-80s I'd go off backpacking with friends for a week or ten days, and the only hope we had if we something went terribly wrong was the occasional park ranger, or other hikers. We might run across four or five other people on the trail per day, but some days no one at all. We'd set up camp by a pond and be the only ones there, and probably for miles in any direction. We never thought about it, because there wasn't the option of taking a GPS, or phone, and we didn't bother with a radio because we never needed one before, so we just never thought to take one.
It was fine. We had skills, we were prepared, we had each other. We had experience. That's all we needed.
I suspect that is very rare now. It would be considered foolish. Fewer and fewer people have the experience of being that disconnected anymore.
It's fun to take mild peril and up the stakes.
I hope you never find out just how much the wilderness doesn't like humans.
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We all made it out unscathed, after about eight summers of doing it together. We were all in our twenties, and believed we were immortal. I haven't been in many years, and won't be going again. It probably IS foolish with the options available, but still something is lost when we're never incommunicado anymore.
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Just doing a simple transaction. I need new tires for my car. Do you know how annoying it is that places will REFUSE to simply... take cash and put new tires on? They want my email, my name, my address, etc. Stop fucking datamining me and provide me a service!
Art. Always have to second guess everything because it might be clanker generated.
Most countries have a code you can dial before a number to hide the caller ID. It's #31# in Australia and *67 in the USA.
Technology has still ruined it though, since most people don't pick up calls from private numbers any more because a lot of them are spam.
Postal chess, killed by computers. Regular over-the-board chess at high levels has turned into a police state with metal detectors and stuff, but at least it's still doable. Online chess, lol.
You can spoof your phone number. That's what spam callers do.
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Projects & Pickups: RMC NetVista M41, Acorn Archimedes Restoration, Atari ST, Future Videos & More!
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In the first of a new series, learn how to make a simple adapter to use your Neo Geo AES arcade controller with everything that uses the Atari joystick standard, including (but not limited to): Atari 8-bit, Atari 2600, Atari ST, Commodore Amiga, C64, Commodore 128 & Sinclair ZX Spectrum.
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What was this comic?
A comic I saw online a few years
First panel Mom reading a bedtime store to kid
Second panel kid gets out of bed and goes to the shelf to grab another book
Third panel Mom says "You have to finish one book before you start another"
Final panel "Why, you don't?" with a stack of books with book marks partway through each of them.
I loved it and I frequently think about it, but I didn't save it and I haven't been able to find it again for the life of me.
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Leamington Spa in Warwickshire, UK, is well known for being the game development hub of the UK, with CodeMasters, FreeStyle Games (DJ Hero, Guitar Hero Live), Mediatonic (Fall Guys), SEGA Hardlight, Epic Games, Rebellion, Xbox Game Studios and many, many more all having a local presence here.
Silicon Spa is a temporary exhibition showcasing all these and more - 50 studios in total - taking place until May 9th at the Royal Pump Rooms in Leamington Spa. So let's see what it's all about!
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Oh, I see! Turns out this is a user setting in the app:
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I'm using Lemmy in a browser right now, are there any apps I can use for Lemmy on my phone and PC?
I have a GrapheneOS phone and Linux Mint on my personal computer.
I enjoy Voyager for mobile.
Been using thunder for a few years. Havent had any issues. Its has lots of options if you wanna customize your UI and swipe gestures.
I use Summit. I used to use Sync, but I think it's been abandoned. At least that was the sentiment when I last used it about a year and a half ago.
Second summit, excellent app
You can also try boost.
Just tried it. It feels so much snappier than voyager.
In this thread: everyone suggesting a phone app and not answering the question.
Ah I totally missed that detail in the original question! Is there an app that does both desktop and mobile?
I think that's the question OP is asking too. You could do some convoluted shit to get an emulator running and just use whatever phone app on both I guess.
You can technically use Voyager on desktop and mobile. You can access the web client here: vger.app/
Voyager for Lemmy
Voyager is a beautiful mobile web client for Lemmy. Enjoy a seamless experience browsing the fediverse.vger.app
You might as well just continue using whatever web browser and access your home instance directly at that rate.
It's also a standalone app as a flatpak, if that makes a difference: flathub.org/en/apps/app.vger.v…
Oh hey! That’s cool to know!
Voyager is designed to work on basically any kind of device. It is available as a web app or on most of the major app stores, including Flathub for Linux use on desktop if you want.
While Thunder is primarily designed to be a mobile app (and only Android/iOS builds are officially distributed), I have certainly built it from source to run on my Linux desktop just to try it. It's just a Flutter app. The Flutter documentation outlines how to build a Flutter project for Linux.
github.com/thunder-app/thunder
But you really have to ask why you want a native Lemmy app instead of just using the website on desktop. There some convenience factors for mobile apps, but I can't really think of why someone would not just want to use the website when using the platform in desktop. Perhaps they just really want the same exact UI across every device or something.
GitHub - aeharding/voyager: Voyager — a beautiful app for Lemmy and Piefed
Voyager — a beautiful app for Lemmy and Piefed. Contribute to aeharding/voyager development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
Two different ones would also work
I recommend this site to compare all the apps across various platforms
I think Interstellar and Voyager are available on both android and Linux
Personally I would suggest picking different apps on each, since it's all the same backend data. A mobile focused app may not behave as nicely on desktop.
You can likely also run some of the alternative UIs as PWAs or full apps, but I haven't explored that yet
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I would advise against using Voyager since it tries to track link shares by first directing you to their website first. It made me uncomfortable so I switched to Summit. I had tried interstellar but wasn't a fan of the layout or how they didn't have the ability to handle going into cross-posted links on android at least. Also, had to use obtainium to install it. Summit on F-Droid supports the full fediverse. I had tried a fourth but can't remember its name, I dropped it because it lacked support for piefeed.
Can you explain what you mean about the sharing? I don't notice any redirection when sharing in Voyager
When sharing a link to a post from Voyager it sends you to a URL on their server.
As an example, sharing this post from Summit will go to sh.itjust.works/post/68040352, but sharing this post from Voyager will go to vger.to/sh.itjust.works/post/6… which is a private server where we don't know what this person is doing with the data collected.
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And you don't see a problem where the default is that tracking behavior? I shouldn't have to hunt through settings meticulously just to maintain some semblance of privacy.
Hey buddy, instances can already track you anyway. The voyager link is better for voyager users sharing things to eachother because it opens in the recipient's preferred instance in their voyager app instead of being taken to the web UI of some random instance you don't even have an account on. You don't have to use it if you don't want it.
TBH while I'm a fan of the app, @begrudgedcarfolk@sh.itjust.works has a point that it's annoying when full privacy requires pouring through every setting you don't even know exists. I'd love for apps to be fully private by default. I don't prefer to blindly trust passing data through third-parties. In this case though, you can see the link that will be shared before you do so, so I don't feel the Voyager dev(s) are doing anything too shady.
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Eh... I have it enabled because it's an easy way to open links in the app. Like, if my friend sends me a link to lemmy.world/whatever, voyager won't be able to open it by default, but using Voyager links allows the app to open it.
Are other apps able to open links without using this work around? It's a pretty important feature-not-bug for me.
I'm on grapheneos, when someone seems me a link, I long press until a context moment l menu pops up, then I share to summit. I don't allow apps to auto-open other apps as its a privacy concern. App developers will use what apps you have available for handling links as a way to build a unique profile of their users.
I care about privacy and all, but I care about bringing my friends over to the fediverse more. I'm happy sending them voyager links and not starting a blog post of "buy a pixel and install graphene" to get them to open a meme thread. 🤷♂️
What do the apps give you that Lemmy's default UI doesn't?
Recently learned that keyword filtering doesn't exist in normal Lemmy, something I use a lot to filter out nonsense.
Since you use Mint I think it should be pointed out that it has the Web Apps manager
The Linux Mint Web Apps manager can be used to add any website you want to your system and make it appear as a separate app. It works by opening the website in a new separate window using your selected browser of choice without adding it to the rest of your tabs.
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oh that is cool. I think I'll try that.
Since noone else said it so far I want to kindly push back and ask why you would want to use an app in the first place. We have gotten too used to just download an app for every single thing and granting it all the permissions in the world. Sure the Lemmy apps are going to be open-source but still, I feel like we need to push the habit to just use a browser instead of an app more.
I have actually decided to set it up as a browser on my phone since I tried everything and didn't really like them, and I've set it up as a web app on my PC.
On iOS I use Voyager, but it is buggy as fuck.
My personal pick is Thunder. Probably has less bells and whistles than some other choices, but it still has everything I need and then some. Looks pretty nice as well and follows the revised Material aesthetic so it should fit in nicely with the rest of the Graphene UI.
And as a cherry on top it's both libre and gratis!
Releases · thunder-app/thunder
An open-source cross-platform Lemmy & PieFed client for iOS and Android - thunder-app/thunderGitHub
There are a bunch. I tried Jerboa and then Voyager on android. Jerboa is the official one, I found Voyager to be a bit nicer, but in the end I find it better to use a browser including on my phone. I sometimes think of writing my own client to reorganize the UI to be more like a usenet client, or maybe even just write a Lemmy to NNTP gateway. I don't understand why it wasn't done that way in the first place.
Interstellar is pretty nice
„Interstellar“ – IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repository
An open source Mbin & Lemmy client, connecting you to the fediverse.IzzyOnDroid Repo Browser
Connect has been awesome on Android
I really like Blorp. Couldn't really say why, it's just nice
I use Eternity because it's most familiar to me coming from Infinity
Jerboa is the official Android app. You can get it from F-Droid, Google Play, IzzyOnDroid, or from their Github. There's no official Linux release, so if you want to run the same app on PC, you'll have to use a workaround like Anbox.
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Voyager works on PC. Grapheme has access to many apps. I would suggest Summit from F-droid.
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Summit on my phone (Fdroid) , browser on my computer (LMDE)
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It's Friday 10/09/2026. Hey, What's Going On!
My vacation/holiday starts today. And I really need it. Woke up tired last two days and stayed tired.
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Have a good vacation!
I moved the fishtank, started emptying it (of sprues, husband filled it with warhammer sprues) and turns out. It. Was broken. It was being held together because the top and bottom are ringed, so no glass was moving, but very very broken. Which is sad. I wanted to make like a diorama out of it. MY THREE D PRINTED BULBASAUR PLANTER COULD HAVE HAD A HOME but I can't put him in a literally broken home.
Almost all the room is cleaned out. How unfortunate I never took a photo of the filled room to compare it to. But I'll share that when the room is empty empty.
For the last 6 months, I've been working 6 days a week. Starting in about half an hour, I'm off for 60 hours straight. Wild.
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Raphaël Glucksmann y croit - Le journal des briques #133
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À la une, les manifestations lycéennes et la primaire des socialistes.
Le journal des briques #133
Bonjour et bienvenue dans votre journal.
À la une des derniers jours, dans le cadre des manifestations lycéens, la préfecture de police de Paris a annoncé avoir confisqué 1756 pancartes ACAB, 369 pancartes À bas l’État et 277 pancartes « 67 67 ». Élections municipales, suite à l’annulation administrative de l’élection dans la ville du Gosier, le maire de la commune a affirmé que cette histoire allait lui rester dans le gosier. ... Oui désolée mais fallait que je la fasse.
Manifestations des lycéens, la situation continue de s’aggraver pour le gouvernement alors que les violences policières extrêmes ont au contraire fait augmenter la colère des manifestants, qui ont gagné le soutien des syndicats et d’une bonne partie de la population. Édouard Philippe, bonjour.
Philippe — Bonjour.
Journaliste — Vous avez récemment déclaré que vous n’aviez aucune envie d’être brutal avec des lycéens car vous en aviez à la maison. C’est bien ça ?
Philippe — C’est effectivement les mots que j’ai prononcés.
Journaliste — D’accord, vous pouvez nous en dire un peu plus ?
Philippe — Eh bien, si vous le souhaitez. Ils sont dans ma cave, je les sors une fois par jour pour les laisser gambader dans mon jardin, et je les nourris avec du Master Poulet. Ils sont très heureux. Moi vous savez, je suis opposé à la maltraitance animale.
Journaliste — Ah.
Journaliste — Hier, les manifestations ont rassemblé des milliers de personnes place de la Bastille à Paris. Laurent Nunez, bonjour.
Nunez — Bonjour.
Journaliste — Laurent Nunez, de votre point de vue, comment se présente la situation à l’heure actuelle ?
Nunez — Ma foi elle se présente bien, tout est sous contrôle.
Journaliste — Ah bon ? Malgré les nombreuses exactions qui ont été dénoncées par les manifestants accusant les forces de police, comme par exemple des attaques à la voiture bélier ?
Nunez — Bien sûr, après tout regardez, pour le moment, personne n’est mort. Et nous ne craignons pas le moindre débordement. C’est d’ailleurs pour ça que j’ai fait quintupler la sécurité du ministère de l’Intérieur. Je ne crains absolument rien;
Journaliste — Et du côté de l’Élysée ?
Nunez — Oh, ils se démerdent.
Et pend-
Personne — Euh dis ?
Journaliste — Oui ?
Personne — Bah tu devrais pas donner la parole aux manifestants eux-mêmes ?
Journaliste — Bah ? Pas du tout. On est un organe de presse. Les stagiaires je vous jure. Beaucoup plus important, c’est le vote de la primaire socialiste qui se tient en ce moment même. Raphaël Glucksmann, bonjour.
Glucksmann — Bonjourun.
Journaliste — Alors Raphaël, pas trop le trac en ce moment ?
Glucksmann — Non, pas du tout parce que toute façon c’est moi qui vais gagner ! Et dès le premier tour Sacha il m’a dit que j’allais gagner dès le premier tour !
Journaliste — Oulah, vous êtes sûr que ce n’est pas un peu trop ambitieux ,
Glucksmann — Même pas vrai d’abord ! Parce que je suis trop fort et pour le moment ma campagne écrase tout !
Journaliste — Vous avez quand même enchaîné les erreurs ces dernières semaines et perdu pied lors des débats, ce n’est pas très rassurant sur votre capacité à mener une campagne victorieuse.
Glucksmann — C’est parce que c’est les autres ils sont jaloux de mon talent Sacha il m’a dit ça aussi. Du coup bah ça veut dire que c’est moi qui vais gagner !
Journaliste — C’est tout le mal qu’on vous souhaite.
Journaliste — Pour notre entretien du jour, nous nous retrouvons avec le Premier ministre Sébastien Lecornu. Sébastien Lecornu, bonjour.
Lecornu — Bonjour.
Journaliste — Sébastien Lecornu, est-ce que vous pourriez nous parler un petit peu des propositions de votre gouvernement pour les lycéens ?
Lecornu — J’ai décidé de faire baisser les prix des carburants !
Journaliste — D’accord, c’est cool, mais concernant vos propositions sur les lycéens, et l’éducation nationale en général…
Lecornu — C’est une mesure de justice sociale que nous estimons absolument nécessaire pour permettre à nos concitoyens de tenir face à l’inflation.
Journaliste — Oui d’accord mais concernant les lycéens-
Lecornu — Et vous savez qu’on a prévu de supprimer une niche d’optimisation fiscale pour les ultrariches ? Vous avez vu comment on est progressistes ?
Journaliste — LES LYCÉENS SÉBASTIEN LECORNU ! Je vous parle des LYCÉENS !
Lecornu — ... Bah on leur envoie déjà des voitures dans la gueule et ils seront bien contents avec ça.
Journaliste — Ah voilà, c’est pas compliqué. Nous vous souhaitons une fin de journée. À bientôt !
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Medical Robot Market Inhibitors: Key Barriers Restricting Adoption, Innovation, and Healthcare Automation
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Introduction
The Medical Robot Market Inhibitors are factors that restrict the adoption, development, and commercial expansion of robotic technologies across healthcare systems. Medical robots are transforming surgical procedures, rehabilitation, diagnostics, patient assistance, and hospital logistics. However, their integration into everyday clinical practice remains challenging because of high investment requirements, complex regulatory processes, limited technical expertise, cybersecurity concerns, and questions about long-term financial returns.
Although robotic technologies offer greater precision, improved procedural consistency, and opportunities to streamline clinical workflows, these advantages do not automatically translate into widespread adoption. Healthcare providers must evaluate the clinical value, operational requirements, and financial sustainability of robotic systems before committing significant resources.
Understanding these inhibitors is essential for manufacturers, hospitals, healthcare professionals, and technology developers seeking to overcome adoption barriers and expand the practical use of medical robotics.
- High Initial Investment and Ownership Costs
One of the most significant inhibitors in the medical robot market is the substantial cost associated with acquiring and maintaining robotic systems. Surgical robots, rehabilitation platforms, and sophisticated robotic imaging technologies often require considerable capital expenditure. Beyond purchasing equipment, healthcare facilities must account for installation, infrastructure upgrades, software licensing, maintenance contracts, and specialized instruments.
Smaller hospitals, outpatient centers, and healthcare facilities in developing regions may struggle to justify these expenses. Limited budgets can force administrators to prioritize essential medical equipment over advanced robotic solutions.
Ownership costs also extend beyond the initial purchase. Replacement components, regular servicing, system upgrades, and consumables can increase operating expenses over time. When procedure volumes remain low, the cost per treatment may become difficult to justify.
Manufacturers can address this challenge through flexible financing, service-based pricing, leasing arrangements, and modular product designs. Demonstrating measurable improvements in clinical outcomes and operational efficiency can also strengthen the investment case.
- Regulatory Complexity and Approval Delays
Medical robots combine mechanical engineering, electronics, software, imaging technologies, and sometimes artificial intelligence. Their complexity creates demanding regulatory requirements intended to protect patient safety and ensure reliable performance.
Developers may need to demonstrate device safety, software reliability, clinical effectiveness, usability, and compatibility with existing medical equipment. The requirements vary by jurisdiction and device classification, making international commercialization particularly challenging.
Regulatory approval can require extensive testing, clinical investigations, documentation, and quality management procedures. These activities increase development costs and may delay product launches. Smaller manufacturers and emerging technology companies can face particular difficulties because they have fewer resources to manage lengthy approval processes.
Requirements may also evolve as regulators respond to new capabilities, including autonomous functions and AI-assisted decision-making. Companies must therefore maintain robust documentation, post-market surveillance, and processes for managing software updates.
Clearer regulatory pathways, early engagement with authorities, and standardized testing practices could reduce uncertainty without compromising patient safety.
- Shortage of Skilled Professionals and Training Requirements
Medical robotics requires collaboration among surgeons, nurses, biomedical engineers, technicians, and IT specialists. Operating advanced systems effectively involves more than learning basic controls. Clinical teams must understand system limitations, emergency procedures, equipment setup, troubleshooting, and appropriate patient selection.
Training can require substantial time and financial resources. During the transition, procedures may take longer as healthcare professionals become familiar with new workflows. Staff scheduling, training availability, and concerns about temporary productivity losses can discourage hospitals from adopting robotic technologies.
The shortage of experienced professionals is especially challenging in regions where specialist education and technical support are limited. Even hospitals that purchase advanced systems may struggle to achieve consistent utilization without appropriate training programs.
Manufacturers and healthcare institutions can reduce this barrier through simulation-based learning, structured certification, continuing education, and accessible technical support. Training should also cover manual alternatives and emergency conversion procedures to ensure patient safety when a robotic system cannot be used.
- Integration Challenges and Infrastructure Limitations
Medical robots rarely operate independently of other healthcare technologies. They may need to connect with imaging systems, electronic health records, surgical instruments, hospital networks, and patient monitoring equipment.
Compatibility problems can create workflow disruptions, data transfer difficulties, and additional integration expenses. Older hospitals may lack the physical space, network capacity, power infrastructure, or specialized operating rooms required by advanced robotic platforms.
Installation can also require changes to room layouts, equipment storage, sterilization procedures, and staff responsibilities. These adjustments may interrupt routine services and increase implementation costs.
Standardized interfaces, interoperable software, and careful implementation planning can help reduce these challenges. Before purchasing a system, hospitals should assess infrastructure readiness, compatibility with existing equipment, maintenance access, and the availability of reliable technical support.
- Cybersecurity and Patient Data Privacy Risks
Connected medical robots may process sensitive patient information and communicate with hospital networks or external software platforms. These capabilities create potential vulnerabilities involving unauthorized access, data theft, malicious software, and service interruptions.
A cybersecurity incident affecting a medical robot could have consequences beyond financial losses. It might compromise confidential records, disrupt clinical schedules, or interfere with the availability of essential equipment.
Healthcare organizations must therefore evaluate device security throughout the technology lifecycle. Important safeguards include access controls, encryption, secure software updates, network segmentation, vulnerability testing, and incident response planning.
Manufacturers also need transparent security policies and timely procedures for addressing discovered vulnerabilities. Hospitals should establish clear responsibilities for monitoring connected devices and maintaining secure configurations.
Strong cybersecurity practices can improve institutional confidence in medical robotics and reduce the risks associated with increasingly connected clinical environments.
- Uncertain Return on Investment and Reimbursement Limitations
Another important inhibitor is uncertainty about whether robotic technologies deliver sufficient financial benefits. Although robotic systems may improve precision or support minimally invasive procedures, their economic value depends on clinical outcomes, procedure volumes, staffing costs, maintenance expenses, and reimbursement arrangements.
Hospitals must determine whether potential benefits outweigh the additional costs. Savings may emerge through shorter hospital stays, reduced complications, or improved operating room efficiency, but results can vary according to the procedure, patient population, and institution.
Reimbursement policies can create additional uncertainty when payment structures do not adequately account for robotic procedures or associated expenses. Healthcare providers may hesitate to adopt expensive systems if reimbursement remains comparable to less costly conventional treatments.
Manufacturers can strengthen adoption by providing transparent evidence of clinical and economic value. Hospitals should evaluate total ownership costs, expected utilization, patient outcomes, and realistic payback periods rather than relying exclusively on projected efficiency gains.
- Reliability, Maintenance, and Clinical Acceptance
Medical robots must operate consistently in environments where equipment failure can disrupt treatment and create safety concerns. Mechanical wear, software errors, calibration problems, and component failures may require service interventions or temporary system shutdowns.
Hospitals need dependable maintenance arrangements, replacement parts, and rapid technical assistance. Facilities located far from authorized service centers may experience longer downtime and greater operational uncertainty.
Clinical acceptance is equally important. Some professionals may question whether robotic systems provide sufficient advantages over established techniques. Patients may also misunderstand robotic surgery as fully autonomous, creating unrealistic expectations about outcomes and risks.
Transparent communication, clinical education, reliable maintenance, and evidence-based evaluation can help address these concerns. Healthcare teams should clearly understand that many surgical robots are controlled by trained clinicians rather than independently performing entire procedures.
Conclusion
The Medical Robot Market Inhibitors reflect a combination of financial, technical, regulatory, operational, and institutional challenges. High ownership costs, approval delays, training requirements, cybersecurity threats, integration difficulties, and uncertain reimbursement can all slow market adoption.
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